Immigration - Page 8 - Brown Cafe

traveler · 02-17-2008, 09:49 AM

Here is an article that I found in the newspaper "Egyptian Mail" while in Cairo last week. An interesting way to control ones border with another country!

CAIRO (AFP) - Egypt said on Thursday it would no longer tolerate Palestinians infiltrating the country from the Gaza Strip, and threatened to break the legs of anyone crossing the Rafah border illegally.

"Anyone who breaches the border will have their legs broken," Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit was quoted as saying by the official MENA news agency on public television overnight.
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in the impoverished Gaza Strip, subjected to a punishing Israeli blockade, crossed freely into Egypt after Islamist militants from Hamas blew apart border barriers late last month.
Abul Gheit said Egypt had allowed the Palestinians to flood across the border for humanitarian reasons only.
He blamed Israel for the situation in the Gaza Strip, accusing the Jewish state of imposing collective punishment on a territory that is home to 1.5 million Palestinians in response to rocket attacks by militants.
Abul Gheit also reproached Hamas for firing rockets into Israel, describing the standoff as a "laughable caricature."
The minister said some rockets misfire and hit the Gaza Strip itself, wounding Palestinians and merely providing Israel with a pretext to attack.
Egyptian and Hamas forces, which seized armed control of the Gaza Strip in mid-June, resealed the Rafah border last week.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080207...flictgazaegypt

And we are giving illegals checks. What a terrible place America is for those illegal immigrants.

UPS Lifer · 02-17-2008, 01:41 PM

Well...breaking one's legs would definitely do it! But this is nothing new.... they were doing this in Chicago back in the 1920's.... OK! It might have been for different reasons.

UPS Lifer · 02-17-2008, 01:46 PM

Traveler,
Egypt is another trip I want to go on. My wife is a little worried about the risk though. When you get a chance, please give us some pointers on the best way to see the ruins.
We are not seasoned world travelers. I am planning this trip for 2009 or 10. We are looking to do S America & New Zealand also. So it depends on what we do first. We may take our boys with us to Egypt. This is a trip they also want to do.

traveler · 02-19-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

Traveler,
Egypt is another trip I want to go on. My wife is a little worried about the risk though. When you get a chance, please give us some pointers on the best way to see the ruins.
We are not seasoned world travelers. I am planning this trip for 2009 or 10. We are looking to do S America & New Zealand also. So it depends on what we do first. We may take our boys with us to Egypt. This is a trip they also want to do.

I will be posting some of our travel logs on the thread that DS started for me on the "Life after Brown" BB. I do still have some work and jet lag to catch up on first though.

moreluck · 11-06-2009, 02:31 AM

Subject: Immigration

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government"
-- Thomas Paine

Let me see if I understand all this....

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR......

IF YOU GO INTO CHINA ILLEGALLY, YOU’RE CONSIDERED A SPY AND GET HARD PRISON TIME.....

IF YOU GO INTO GERMANY ILLEGALLY, YOU GET A HEFTY FINE, WORK IT OFF OR PAY IT OFF, THEN DEPORTED........

IF YOU GO INTO ENGLAND ILLEGALLY, YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY JAILED AND DEPORTED........

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY....

BUT, IF YOU CROSS THE U.S... BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:

1. A DRIVERS LICENSE
2. A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
3. WELFARE
4. FOOD STAMPS AND
5. FREE HEALTH CARE?

I guess I still don't understand....maybe we need to VOTE OUR LAWMAKERS OUT.

GO GREEN!! RECYCLE CONGRESS !!!

UPS Lifer · 11-09-2009, 07:19 AM

You are so right.... and in Phoenix we have a sheriff who has lost his federal certification to aid ICE because of the local liberal and very biased Mexican organizations and politicians. He is accused of racial profiling but statistics in Phoenix prove out his theory that most of the major crime is from illegal aliens generally Mexican gang bangers.

He is a crotchety old guy and doesn't care who's toes he steps on while fighting crime. Every major metropolitan area needs someone like him.

Go Sheriff Joe - round em up - lock em up and throw away the key. Do whatever you have to to keep the streets safe for American citizens.

moreluck · 11-09-2009, 08:36 AM

I love Sheriff Joe and all he stands for !!!!!

over9five · 11-09-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

You are so right.... and in Phoenix we have a sheriff who has lost his federal certification to aid ICE because of the local liberal and very biased Mexican organizations and politicians. He is accused of racial profiling but statistics in Phoenix prove out his theory that most of the major crime is from illegal aliens generally Mexican gang bangers.

He is a crotchety old guy and doesn't care who's toes he steps on while fighting crime. Every major metropolitan area needs someone like him.

Go Sheriff Joe - round em up - lock em up and throw away the key. Do whatever you have to to keep the streets safe for American citizens.

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Originally Posted by moreluck

I love Sheriff Joe and all he stands for !!!!!

Halla freakin lujah!!! Sheriff Joe is the best. (So of course every Liberal weirdo is out to bring him down).

wkmac · 11-10-2009, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

You are so right.... and in Phoenix we have a sheriff who has lost his federal certification to aid ICE because of the local liberal and very biased Mexican organizations and politicians. He is accused of racial profiling but statistics in Phoenix prove out his theory that most of the major crime is from illegal aliens generally Mexican gang bangers.

He is a crotchety old guy and doesn't care who's toes he steps on while fighting crime. Every major metropolitan area needs someone like him.

Go Sheriff Joe - round em up - lock em up and throw away the key. Do whatever you have to to keep the streets safe for American citizens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreluck

I love Sheriff Joe and all he stands for !!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by over9five

Halla freakin lujah!!! Sheriff Joe is the best. (So of course every Liberal weirdo is out to bring him down).

Yeah, in Maricopa Co. they flat know how to treat their convicts. Even in the courtroom itself, there's no mercy, they get no chance to manipulate the system to wiggle out and then go about threating society. This video of a Maricopa County Courtroom shows firsthand how the sheriff's office and the judge work together to make America safer.

YouTube- Maricopa County Sheriff's employee takes documents from defense attorney

Makes me so proud I wanna say the pledge of allegience. Stand and join me.

Quote:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Man, those words hit ya where you live don't it? Big thanks to Lifer, More and Over for bringing up Maricopa County and Sheriff Joe so we can recognize and celebrate this bastion of American idealism.

wkmac · 11-10-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

Subject: Immigration

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government"
-- Thomas Paine

Interesting that you quote Thomas Paine and his point is most excellent. Nice job quoting him. Here are some more Paine writtings you might find worthwhile and filled with more quotable material you could use in later posts. I'm a huge fan of Paine myself!

As for immigration, I understand if something takes more than a couple of minutes, you're not interested and unfortunately what I'm about to suggest to understand a real root cause in mass immigration from the south will take more than a few minutes.

I think all 3 of these may be required to connect the dots so sorry if it takes away from your Bobby Darren one on one time. First, the free-bees, go to goggle video and type in "The World According to Monsanto" and then take a read of this but the last one will take a bit more effort. Watch the movie Food Inc. About half way through this film, there is a segment on so-called illegal aliens working in the food processing bidness.

In the 1970's and 1980' the family farms and the communities built around them were corporatized in this country. Now part of that on my part is some first hand experience as my father worked and retired from the agri-monsters of Cargill, Central Soya, Con-Agra so I have some direct firsthand knowledge of how corp. farms do work. As farmers by hook or crook were driven off the farms in the 70's and 80's, they migrated to where the work was. It's funny how no one discusses the effects of unemployment numbers during that period when a whole industry was transformed and "DOWNSIZED" overnight and these people migrated from the rural areas into the cities placing more stress on a burdened job market.

Now if those same corporations having depleted the domestic farm market in the way of aquisition now move south and start doing the same, are there viable job markets in the cities south of the border as these small farmers displaced or driven from bidness? Has the same agri-corporations who hold almost monopoly control (see Food Inc.) of the food processing operations in this country found a ready source of very cheap labor?

I'm not wild about the so-called illegal immigration problems either but you don't defeat cancer by taking an asprin for the headache that is nothing more than a symtom of the cancer. Yelling and shaking your fist at the sky because it doesn't rain won't change the fact that you choose to continue to live in the middle of an arid desert!

As Thoreau said, "There are a 1000 hacking at the branches of evil to the one who is striking at the root!"

It's past time to start striking at the root if you really wanna solve the core cause behind so-called illegal immigration.

island1fox · 11-10-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreluck

Subject: Immigration

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government"
-- Thomas Paine

Let me see if I understand all this....

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR......

IF YOU GO INTO CHINA ILLEGALLY, YOU’RE CONSIDERED A SPY AND GET HARD PRISON TIME.....

IF YOU GO INTO GERMANY ILLEGALLY, YOU GET A HEFTY FINE, WORK IT OFF OR PAY IT OFF, THEN DEPORTED........

IF YOU GO INTO ENGLAND ILLEGALLY, YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY JAILED AND DEPORTED........

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY....

BUT, IF YOU CROSS THE U.S... BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:

1. A DRIVERS LICENSE
2. A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
3. WELFARE
4. FOOD STAMPS AND
5. FREE HEALTH CARE?

I guess I still don't understand....maybe we need to VOTE OUR LAWMAKERS OUT.

GO GREEN!! RECYCLE CONGRESS !!!

Moreluck,
I agree!!! Also many people do not realize this ----cross our southern border heading into Mexico illegally and see what they do to you ----I can assure you will not be recieving any benefits !

wkmac · 11-19-2009, 10:14 AM

Lou Dobbs and the Immigration Issue

moreluck · Yesterday, 08:12 PM

Quote:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Oh, this would be something else that Obama wouldn't put his hand over his heart for !!!!!!!!!