Government Motors

[moreluck]

And, they are building your next car......

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/23...est=latestnews

[PMSair]

I didn't have to go past Foxnews

[moreluck]

It's on film....you can believe your own eyes.

[diesel96]

It's a good find Moreluck, and each one of those par-taking should be let go..... But why the political angle on the story ? If you don't think this goes on in any-town USA on workers lunch breaks your very niave.....I bet if we follow some Fox News employees with hidden camera's we can get a scoop on some Martini lunches and oxycotin desserts.....But the same ole song and dance routine of Fox's disingenuis journalistic spin is so evidently transparent in their quest to put a Republican in the Whitehouse.

[moreluck]

These guys have been suspended without pay til the union decides what to do about them. If I was gov't motors or GM or Chrysler or whatever they are called now, they would've been fired immediately.

[cachsux]

We already had a UPS employee on here self admitting to partaking in a frosty beverage at lunch so who are we to cast stones unless it`s an attempt to build up a little superiority complex bump heading into the weekend.

[rod]

It's on film....you can believe your own eyes.

Now days I don't believe anything if I don't see it in person and sometime not even then. Not saying it didn't happen but stranger things have been faked or set up just to make the other side look bad. To be honest I wouldn't buy another Jeep even if the workers were shown going to church on their lunch break. I've always loved the UAW----------------they make the Teamsters look like angels.

[moreluck]

We already had a UPS employee on here self admitting to partaking in a frosty beverage at lunch so who are we to cast stones unless it`s an attempt to build up a little superiority complex bump heading into the weekend.

My point was...our $$$ rescued this company and this is how grateful the workers are to have a job. I'm sure they think because they work for a gov't owned entity, they can't lose their jobs (like the USPS)

[cachsux]

My point was...our $$$ rescued this company and this is how grateful the workers are to have a job. I'm sure they think because they work for a gov't owned entity, they can't lose their jobs (like the USPS)

Why not just as well say that since these people should be grateful they work for a union company they think they can`t lose their jobs ( like UPS).
The anti-government loan types fail to look beyond the loan to the automotive companies to see what a domino effect it would have had to allow them to go under. It wouldn`t have been just the car company, it would have been felt all the way to the suppliers of every part made. Those people would have been affected just as well, even us at UPS who ship those parts. The dollars spent on the manufacturers was a small piece of the overall pie that would have been a negative hit on an already weak economy if they were allowed to fail.

There`s plenty of "our" dollars being pissed away on the most wastefull stuff you can imagine. Worry about those if you want. This wasn`t one of them.

[brett636]

Why not just as well say that since these people should be grateful they work for a union company they think they can`t lose their jobs ( like UPS).
The anti-government loan types fail to look beyond the loan to the automotive companies to see what a domino effect it would have had to allow them to go under. It wouldn`t have been just the car company, it would have been felt all the way to the suppliers of every part made. Those people would have been affected just as well, even us at UPS who ship those parts. The dollars spent on the manufacturers was a small piece of the overall pie that would have been a negative hit on an already weak economy if they were allowed to fail.

There`s plenty of "our" dollars being pissed away on the most wastefull stuff you can imagine. Worry about those if you want. This wasn`t one of them.

Wrong. Bankruptcy laws are setup so companies can remain in business while they re-organize their debt. Under bankruptcy protection both companies could have continued producing cars while they reduce loan payments, renegotiate labor contracts, and setup new terms with their suppliers. Neither company needed those loans, and we wouldn't have a leftover stigma in the bond market from when Obama forced bondholders to be the last to get paid when by law they should have been first. The loans were a bad idea, the subsequent bankruptcies and the boondoggle they came will be not forgotten soon. Quite frankly if a company is not organized well enough to handle the worst of times they don't deserve to enjoy the best of times.