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    2013 Contract

    Do you think the Teamsters will strike against UPS when this contract is up or will they cut a deal before it expires? It seems that this next contract could be the most important one UPS Teamsters have ever faced. Thoughts?

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    Re: 2013 Contract

    Early contract signed.
    The changes in the contract will be interesting to see.
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    Re: 2013 Contract

    Depends on who wins general President. Hoffa as Hoax stated. Pope possible
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    I don't see any possibility of a strike in 2013. That being said, I felt the same way in 1997. More important than who wins the ongoing IBT elections, is who will win the national elections in the next 2 years. It was believed by many TV newspeople in '97 that a Republican President would have intervened. Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, as a strike in 2013 would be the end of UPS and the Teamsters. JMHO

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    If Hoffa hasn't had the balls to enforce the contract there is no way he'll strike. Hoffa is in with UPS hands down. If Sandy Pope wins its another story. First she will take UPS to arbitration just like Carey did and get those 20,000 full time jobs that are still owed. Then she will have to gain back the loses from this last contract. Gegare is another Hoffa, no principles or courage, just in it for himself.

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    Re: 2013 Contract

    A lot of things have changed since 97. With the economy the way it is right now don't expect a lot of sympathy from the public.
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    Re: 2013 Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by hembone View Post
    A lot of things have changed since 97. With the economy the way it is right now don't expect a lot of sympathy from the public.
    You got that right!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoaxster View Post
    Early contract signed.
    The changes in the contract will be interesting to see.
    Early contract desired, changes in every contract are interesting. The "early" contract will be dependent on the reasonableness of negotiations. If UPS takes the lead from the Republican Governors "War on Workers", or if the Teamsters get stupid and don't recognize the mood of the country, things will get real interesting. But I believe brighter people than Republican Governors are running both UPS and the Teamsters so I agree an early contract will be presented for ratification and accepted.

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    Re: 2013 Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil View Post
    If Hoffa hasn't had the balls to enforce the contract there is no way he'll strike. Hoffa is in with UPS hands down. If Sandy Pope wins its another story. First she will take UPS to arbitration just like Carey did and get those 20,000 full time jobs that are still owed. Then she will have to gain back the loses from this last contract. Gegare is another Hoffa, no principles or courage, just in it for himself.
    If Sandy wins it'll still be Hoffa people negotiating. The thought that she'll "win" an arbitration regarding 22.3's is a stretch. Arbitrators make goofy decisions too.

    Evil, do you know Gegare? You state, "Gegare is another Hoffa, no principles or courage, just in it for himself." If this was true why didn't Gegare just stay on the Hoffa slate? If he had no principles wouldn't staying with Hoffa make more sense? Five more years of cashing checks/doing nothing sure beats retiring for someone with no principles or courage. Gegare doesn't lack courage or principles, he lacks timing and good judgement. He should have left Hoffa 10 years ago. Fred Gegare also served his country as a United States Marine, so tell your story walking if you want to question his courage. I'll guarantee you wouldn't say that to his face.
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    Re: 2013 Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by brownedout View Post
    I don't see any possibility of a strike in 2013. That being said, I felt the same way in 1997. More important than who wins the ongoing IBT elections, is who will win the national elections in the next 2 years. It was believed by many TV newspeople in '97 that a Republican President would have intervened. Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, as a strike in 2013 would be the end of UPS and the Teamsters. JMHO
    There's a pretty good chance the next UPS/IBT agreement will be in place before Jan 20, 2013. I thought all the free marketeers didn't want government intervention in the private sector, but you think the Pres should step into our labor issues?
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