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    Looking Again At Right to Work

    The Indiana legislature recently approved a “right to work” law, the 23rd of its kind in the United States.
    A “union shop” agreement between an employer and a union commits the employer to ensuring that new hires join the union within a specified period. Right-to-work laws ban union-shop agreements.
    Let’s put it another way: They violate freedom of contract.
    If employers choose to conclude union-shop contracts with unions, what gives the Indiana legislature the right to interfere?
    Employers own the wages they will pay and the sites where work will be performed under such contracts. So it’s their right to dispense the wages and make the sites available specifically to union members, just as it’s their right, more generally, to trade with anyone they choose.
    When a legislature interferes with voluntary employment contracts, it infringes people’s freedom to bargain with their own labor and possessions. Treating this kind of interference as acceptable means licensing arbitrary interventions into the market by politicians, who are ill-equipped to second-guess the decisions made by the real people making work agreements with one another.
    What's Wrong With Right-To-Work
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    It gives the part timer barely making $200 a week the choice to join or not. When they have to give $20 out of that check to the greedy Union, that makes it where they don't even bring home minimum wage at the end of the week. Call me a scab, I don't care-I'm in a RTW state and have no plan on joining a Union that does not care about the part-timer. In this economy where you are lucky to find a job, I'm not giving any money away to anyone else. I work two jobs and my husband is self-employed, we make it, we live comfortably, but if I was to loose that money each week, that's less money to go towards important bills. Maybe things will change when the economy gets better, but for now I am all about the RTW-hopefully it will make the Unions wake up and see how greedy they are and change.
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    So, you think it's ok to be like a generational welfare recipient that feels society owes them something? Because that is what it equates to.
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    Re: Looking Again At Right to Work

    Quote Originally Posted by menotyou View Post
    So, you think it's ok to be like a generational welfare recipient that feels society owes them something? Because that is what it equates to.
    AKA.. socialism. And it seems to be the way this country is headed.

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    Re: Looking Again At Right to Work

    Quote Originally Posted by Astispumanti View Post
    It gives the part timer barely making $200 a week the choice to join or not. When they have to give $20 out of that check to the greedy Union, that makes it where they don't even bring home minimum wage at the end of the week. Call me a scab, I don't care-I'm in a RTW state and have no plan on joining a Union that does not care about the part-timer. In this economy where you are lucky to find a job, I'm not giving any money away to anyone else. I work two jobs and my husband is self-employed, we make it, we live comfortably, but if I was to loose that money each week, that's less money to go towards important bills. Maybe things will change when the economy gets better, but for now I am all about the RTW-hopefully it will make the Unions wake up and see how greedy they are and change.
    Who provides the health benefits?

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    Re: Looking Again At Right to Work

    Quote Originally Posted by brown_trousers View Post
    AKA.. socialism. And it seems to be the way this country is headed.
    My point to the poster is, he is getting a free ride on the backs of the employees who pay those union officials to negotiate those contract they enjoy the benefits of. If they want to let the union go, by all means, be my guest. But, do it completely, not half-assed.
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    Re: Looking Again At Right to Work

    Quote Originally Posted by menotyou View Post
    My point to the poster is, he is getting a free ride on the backs of the employees who pay those union officials to negotiate those contract they enjoy the benefits of. If they want to let the union go, by all means, be my guest. But, do it completely, not half-assed.
    agreed, but unfortunately, freeloading seems to be the inevitable direction and future of this country, it only makes sense that it would make its way into UPS.

    Everyone nowadays seems to think they should be able to ride on the backs of other, in fact its more than that, they feel entitled to it like they have somehow earned the right to take more than they have earned, ie.. welfare, obamacare, RTW, etc..
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    Re: Looking Again At Right to Work

    It goes further than you realize. People view the kind of union pay and benefits that you earn as pretty close to socialism. The great big BC--the Brown Commune. "Each according to his ability (by telematics), each according to his need (benefits)" All of that taking away from the ability to compete (load of BS).

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    there are many part-timers who believe also they can slack and get away with it because the union is there and they will not loose there job its hard for the part-timers who actually show up and work hard to wanna pay dues to something that is allowing people to have a free ride pay check also. I see both points yes the union gets us great benefits, but also keeps people around who don't deserve them
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    Re: Looking Again At Right to Work

    Republicans, so hilarious. We need smaller government. Well unless it includes us sticking our noses into union busting, who can marry who, trying to police pornography, drugs, movies, music, etc, and also making all kinds of tax loopholes for their corporate backers. But besides that, they love them some "small government".

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