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About LinkBacksHey guys I'm a new hire and I was wondering where I can find some information on joining/ not joining a union. thanks
Hey guys I'm a new hire and I was wondering where I can find some information on joining/ not joining a union. thanks
Welcome cc,Originally Posted by christian c
I believe you will get more views in teh UPS Labor forum so I am moving your thread to that forum.
Happy posting.
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Hi christian... did you get hired in the U.S. in a UPS package handling position? If so, you probably already signed the paperwork to join the union. Unfortunately its not a choice for most of us, but there are a few states that allow you the right to choose whether to join the union or not join. I suggest you speak with your HR representative about it.
Unless you're in a Right to Work state joining the Union, or at least paying them to represent you, is a condition of your employment, and you will see a nice chunk of your pay check taken away for, first, Intitiation Fees and then monthly dues. But you will find you need the Union to protect you from management abuse, so it's a necessary expense.
What's your question, exactly?
If monday was your first day, and you're in training, the last day of it, they should bring in a steward to talk about it. They did for me, anyways.
"There are 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't"
I am in Texas so it's an option for me, and I have already talked to a steward. She wasn't very helpful with information and I was really looking for some unbiased pros/cons.
I'll throw a few of my cents worth. How long do you want to work here? You want to become F/T? You want to be P/T supervisor? You want to become F/T supervisor/manager? I think a little bit of self-examination is needed. Why? Well, I'll get dissed on this but here goes:
You only plan to be here for a short time, as in finishing your schooling then going off to pursue other interests, I don't think it's financially to your benefit to join, if you have the option. As was said, you'll have initiation dues taken out then monthly dues after that. You ready for that? You want that if you're only here for a yr or two?
You want some stability in your life if you choose to move on to other positions, such as driver, then you NEED to join. You will be faced with issues that you not believe could have existed in a corporation. You may be the hardest worker you have ever known and dedicated to your job but there will always be something in your 5, 10, 20, 30 year career that'll come up that you wish you had more protection.
Joining is not a matter of making more $. You get the same as your position pays, union or not. To me, it's a matter of protection. I've used the union many times over the years when I didn't plan to when I was hired. Not that I'm a trouble maker, I just want things done right when I do things right. You'll always come across a green supe that wants to knock the earth off its axis and come up with some off-the-wall plan that's gonna do that. It's gonna affect YOU. What recourse do you have when his/her plan is wrong and it's wronging YOU?
There's way more but this will get things rolling again for you and on here for you AND me. Watch.
You don't get any answers from your steward, then go to a BA directly.
bottom line - if you can't accept a 20 year old pimple face with no life experience barking instructions to you, don't go union.
Things aren't always how they appear
How is not joining the union going to prevent this?
if youre in a right to work state(where you dont HAVE to join the union)
then DONT
they still have to defend you and your paycheck will be fatter
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