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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart View Post
    After 5 years of employment, how much does a package handler at FedEx make in this day and age? What are the typical raises for those people per year?

    At my 5th year as a handler with UPS in 2005 I was making almost 15/hr.

    In the short term, yes, I can see FedEx STARTING with higher pay. But in almost every facet, I cannot see FedEx paying more down the road a few years.
    Very, very few individuals stay package handlers for more than 18 months. If they are at the ramps or hubs, they transition to material handler which entails aircraft loading and unloading operations. It pays marginally more but is far less strenuous work. Handlers start at about $12/hr now with local market variations.

    There are a few handlers that last past 18 months as a handler, but not many. The average handler last about 6 months before they either transition to aircraft operations, or quit (or become a Courier if they are at a station). There are some that last 12 or more month to change jobs to being a Courier, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Those that do last more than 18 months tend to work solely for insurance benefits and waive their minimum hour guarantees so that they can work 13-15 hours a week. UPS handlers are holding out for a well paid union job, FedEx handlers are just holding out. A FedEx handler that waives minimums, and has their family on their benefits is basically working for the health insurance card only. The weekly premiums leave only about $100 a week in net take home pay for the 13-15 hours of hard work.

    A FedEx handler can transition to a Courier position in as little as a year and in many locations Couriers are hired off the street. The starting wage for Couriers now is just under $15 base market rate. So it took you 5 years as a UPS handler to get $15/hr, a FedEx new hire Courier can make that from day 1.

    However.... the pay raises are only between 5 and 6.5% - when we had payraises. For the first couple of years, a new hire was lucky to get a 5% raise based off how the evaulation system is structured.

    So... UPS and FedEx new hires starting on the same day will result in the FedEx employee being paid more per hour than the UPS employee (assuming the FedEx employee was hired directly as a Courier). This will continue until the UPS handler becomes a driver. Then the pay difference flips. It will take about 12-18 months for the UPS new driver to surpass the FedEx Courier in total compensation received to date and after that it is all money in the bank compared to the FedEx employee.

    This is why for a short term employment situation, FedEx is the better option. For a career, UPS is by far the better option. Many FedEx employees get "stuck" in thinking that their employment is going to be short term, and they are left shaking their head 10 years later wearing purple. If they are full-time at this point, they are stuck.

    Express has tremendous turnover of employees. The turnover is at the lower 20% of compensation levels/positions. There are about 140,000 Express employees and it seems that Express has been going through about 40-45,000 employees a year. The bottom end of Express is a revolving door. Express is about to hit employee # 800,000 if they haven't already. Nine years ago the new employee #s were in the 300,000 range. That is half a million in just under 10 years. In the Memphis area, everyone knows someone that has worked for FedEx if they haven't worked for FedEx themselves.

    There are part-time Couriers that have 10 and even a few have upwards of 20 years. Some were full-time that switched to maintain a steady source of income while they pursue other income opportunities. With the way the traditional pension plan was structured, this was a viable option. There was no differentiation in years of service between full and part time status, only the average high years of income were used to calculate pension amount. Others are working parents that want time with their children while they maintain continuous employment. For those who want only part-time employment and a modest health insurance benefit, Express works. For those that are full-time employees, they are getting hosed.

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    There is a husband and wife team that both drive for Express locally. He is FT while she is PT and sells real estate on the side. They were both working there FT before they got married but she decided to go PT and loves it.

    UPS needs to address the starting wage for PTers.
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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer View Post
    There is a husband and wife team that both drive for Express locally. He is FT while she is PT and sells real estate on the side. They were both working there FT before they got married but she decided to go PT and loves it.

    UPS needs to address the starting wage for PTers.
    The last sentence is the reason why I applied to both UPS and FedEx shortly afterwards is due to the starting wage of part time package handlers. The starting hourly wage for UPS package handlers is $8.50 an hour while only working 3.5 to 4 hours a day and from the tour its obviously a physically demanding job. While the FedEx part time handlers start at $12 something an hour but work around the same amount of hours. From reading some of the posts on here it seems FedEx is the better company for new hires but UPS is more career oriented.

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by quest01 View Post
    The last sentence is the reason why I applied to both UPS and FedEx shortly afterwards is due to the starting wage of part time package handlers. The starting hourly wage for UPS package handlers is $8.50 an hour while only working 3.5 to 4 hours a day and from the tour its obviously a physically demanding job. While the FedEx part time handlers start at $12 something an hour but work around the same amount of hours. From reading some of the posts on here it seems FedEx is the better company for new hires but UPS is more career oriented.
    I do agree

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    I had an interview today for a FedEx handler position. There were two people in the room, one was in HR and I'm not sure who the other person was. They both took turn asking me a series of questions probably around 10 questions in total that took around 30 minutes to complete. I thought the interview went well, the questions weren't that difficult so hopefully they call me back or I'll eventually call them.

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    best of luck man

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    Standing and holding your ankles!!

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by grgrcr88 View Post
    Standing and holding your ankles!!

    The OP was not asking how you got your job at UPS (I actually thought kneeling was involved) but was asking about jobs at FedEx.
    Anyone can Google.

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    I had an interview yesterday for a FedEx part time Dockworker position. I thought the interview went well, he asked me a series of questions and at the end I had to this this little test where I had to repeat a few words from different signs and take this math test where I counted the number of boxes on a pallet. After I did that he showed me the warehouse area about what dockworkers do and everything, there was only 4 people in the entire building. The job doesnt seem that labor intensive like the handler positions at ups and fedex, the manager says your on the forklift about 85% of your shift so Im assuming your using a forklight to put pallets of freight inside trucks for most of the shift. He mentioned its more fast paced then anything.

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    Re: Applying to FedEx, which position is better?

    I have a question can you work as a fedex part time dockworker and a ups delivery helper?

    I have an interview and orientation for a ups delivery helper position today and its only a seasonal position until December 31st. I had an interview for a fedex part time dockworker position late last week and I called the person who interviewed me yesterday to check the status of the hiring process and he told me hes still waiting for the background check and if that clears(which it should) I have to take a drug test.(which I should pass) I was just wondering if I could work both positions even though they are both shipping companies, the ups driver helper position is only a seasonal position until the end of December. I wouldn't think it would be a big deal seeing that that the ups position isn't permanent.

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