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    Quote Originally Posted by yeldarb View Post
    What is top rate at Fed ex? What is the progression to get it? How much vacation and sick days?
    If you scroll through the posts you'll see one titled "Payscales". How much you top out at depends on which payscale you are under. When I started in '86 it took 23 months to top out but that was stretched out over the years to the point where it could possibly take 40+ years to top out. I'm a rehire at almost 13.5 years, and make $4.40hr less than topped out employees. I was making $4.27hr less until the last raise in March. That's been the case for about 4 years now, losing ground instead of catching up. The latest pay scheme which started in March is supposed to address this by speeding up time to top-out a bit, but it will still take a very long time. A newhire will receive 3% annual raises until he reaches the midway point between starting pay and top pay. He then gets 5% raises until he gets to the 4th quartile when he'll get 6% raises until he reaches top-out. The catch is that if they raise either starting or top pay then the mid-point moves up. So at 3% raises they'll be chasing the mid point and better raises for a very long time. And there's no guarantee that FedEx will even keep it's word about giving even these small raises. It's all smoke and mirrors.

    A newhire will receive 2 weeks vacation after working 1 year, 3 weeks after 5 years, 4 weeks after 10 years, and 5 weeks after 20 years. 5 paid sick days a year that are paid to you as a bonus for the days you don't take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS View Post
    I agree with rocketman...You have no idea of what you are getting yourself into at ups.
    If indeed you get a pkg driver job,expect overzealous production expectations,extreme safety protocol,
    and explaing to the CM why you went over 9.5
    Same crap different pile.
    No offense but its not brain surgery

    I do the job at fedex with my eyes closed. Not a hero but the place is so miserable i just want to get out of there asap every day

    Its all relative. You guys have twice to three times the deliveries every day but stops are much tighter. I pull into a neighborhood and i have 2 stops and the ups guy has 7. The only issue with the job would be learning ups procedures of how they want the job done. And learning the diad. Beyond that i would have zero issues handling the job. I guarantee that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northeast swing driver View Post
    You sound like one of the entitled top pay employees
    Wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by northeast swing driver View Post
    No offense but its not brain surgery
    It's an easy job.
    Most people would rather be certain they're miserable, than risk being happy.
    He who dies with the most toys..............still dies.

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    And just to make the point clear. I think the chances are slim to none it works out. Slim to none to be kept as a permanent. and slim is halfway out the door. Union job. I know the deal. Totally fair. But at this point at my pay grade federal express is a job to nowhere. Have to take chances in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northeast swing driver View Post
    And just to make the point clear. I think the chances are slim to none it works out. Slim to none to be kept as a permanent. and slim is halfway out the door. Union job. I know the deal. Totally fair. But at this point at my pay grade federal express is a job to nowhere. Have to take chances in life.
    Friend of mine who used to be a FedEx courier just got on at the Post Office. He's 54 so it's possible to get into something better. Even with their troubles the Post Office still pays better with better benefits.

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    management could care less if you disagree with them on the SFA. what raises a red flag is when you, the employee decline to take the SFA. I know, I dealt with four managers as to why i didn't want to take the SFA. Managers (at least the ones here) have to explain why there wasn't 100% participation from their workgroup at some point to the senior manager, district director and beyond her. so if you really wanted to stick it to your manager, you should have refused to take it ! let's not forget, "The SFA is voluntary, not mandatory" ! Your goal should be to safely pickup & delivery good service to your customers, and tell management to GO TO HADES !

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    Re: SFA time...

    Quote Originally Posted by franknitty View Post
    management could care less if you disagree with them on the SFA. what raises a red flag is when you, the employee decline to take the SFA. I know, I dealt with four managers as to why i didn't want to take the SFA. Managers (at least the ones here) have to explain why there wasn't 100% participation from their workgroup at some point to the senior manager, district director and beyond her. so if you really wanted to stick it to your manager, you should have refused to take it
    The best way to stick it to your manager is to take it and show him no mercy in your evaluation. Yes, managers are moved and/or asked (hee hee!) to step down into hourly positions if their SFA scores are bad enough. Your senior may also get into some hot water if your manager's score is bad enough. An employee who doesn't take the SFA doesn't hurt the manager as much as someone who gives him a poor score. A manager is scored based on the SFA's submitted, not on the ones that weren't.

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    Geeze,
    I must be one of very few who actually likes my mgr. and Sr.
    I don't believe anything I read on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Dano View Post
    The best way to stick it to your manager is to take it and show him no mercy in your evaluation. Yes, managers are moved and/or asked (hee hee!) to step down into hourly positions if their SFA scores are bad enough. Your senior may also get into some hot water if your manager's score is bad enough. An employee who doesn't take the SFA doesn't hurt the manager as much as someone who gives him a poor score. A manager is scored based on the SFA's submitted, not on the ones that weren't.
    100% incorrect

    way worse on a manager if he/she has employees who don't take it instead of employees who take it and bury her

    my manager begs me to take it every year and knows damn well i would bury him/her on every question if i did take it.

    haven't taken it in years
    Last edited by northeast swing driver; 04-29-2012 at 07:04 PM.

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    Re: SFA time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. 7 View Post
    Geeze,
    I must be one of very few who actually likes my mgr. and Sr.
    I like my manager, SM not so much, he's definitely weaselly.
    I deliver the purple promise and get nothing but the chartreuse bruise...

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