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    Unions are bad!!!

    Station closing down? Hours been cut? Volume decreasing? And your still sipping the purple drink? I will never understand why Fedx employees are so blind.

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    Re: Unions are bad!!!

    An what does this have to do with unions?
    Most people would rather be certain they're miserable, than risk being happy.
    He who dies with the most toys..............still dies.

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    Re: Unions are bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LTFedExer View Post
    An what does this have to do with unions?
    Duh, if ground and express were both able to unionize without having the deck stacked against them by a billionaire and his bought off politicians, we all sure would have better working conditions, wages, retirement , healthcare etc......
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    Re: Unions are bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FED UPs View Post
    Station closing down? Hours been cut? Volume decreasing? And your still sipping the purple drink? I will never understand why Fedx employees are so blind.
    Just look at a couple of posters here, and you'll get your answer.

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    Re: Unions are bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by thedownhillEXPRESS View Post
    Duh, if ground and express were both able to unionize without having the deck stacked against them by a billionaire and his bought off politicians, we all sure would have better working conditions, wages, retirement , healthcare etc......
    I could only pray that we could all have the courage to unionize!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chargerlou View Post
    I could only pray that we could all have the courage to unionize!!!
    I bashed my head against that wall in 2009-10. Organizing will never happen in Express. The bar has been raised too high, and there are just too damn many that are either afraid, or content with the way things are.


    For those who didn't read my post many months ago addressing this topic... the options were:

    Leave, Organize or Bendover.

    This was prior to the latest change to the administrative rules of RLA organizing. Now it is:

    Leave or Bendover.

    Right now, you are becoming very accustomed to being bent over for Fred's enrichment. Your only other option is to make an exit plan and implement it when the opportunity presents itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLACO190 View Post
    im with you lets not give up!!
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    Re: Unions are bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet1a View Post
    I bashed my head against that wall in 2009-10. Organizing will never happen in Express. The bar has been raised too high, and there are just too damn many that are either afraid, or content with the way things are.


    For those who didn't read my post many months ago addressing this topic... the options were:

    Leave, Organize or Bendover.

    This was prior to the latest change to the administrative rules of RLA organizing. Now it is:

    Leave or Bendover.

    Right now, you are becoming very accustomed to being bent over for Fred's enrichment. Your only other option is to make an exit plan and implement it when the opportunity presents itself.
    If an employee is currently getting good OT he'd better hang on as long as possible. Things may change drastically, but he should ride the OT train until it stops. And I suspect there are plenty of employees who'd be tickled to only work 35 hrs a week. Could look their spouse in the eye and honestly say better to hang out all afternoon to do a pickup rt than to get a job at Burger King that requires more hours for less money. It's been my experience that most FedEx couriers aren't college educated. The ones who are tend to be slackers who are content punching a clock. My sister worked fulltime while going to school at night, makes $65k in a nice office setting now. Most couriers I know, myself included, run off to do things they enjoy after clocking out. Hanging out with their buds, drinking beer, fishing, watching tv, shopping for the ladies, you name it. And when corporations attack, so to speak, we're the ones who get run over. It's a proud tradition, and frankly I get a little irritated that my chosen lifestyle gets compared to prison romance.

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    Re: Unions are bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by vantexan View Post
    ...frankly I get a little irritated that my chosen lifestyle gets compared to prison romance.
    If you can come up with a better evaluation of the options faced by Express wage employees, go ahead and post it.


    You stated it yourself, your sister has a career that gets her $65k/yr, you get what, maybe $42k/yr with OT (both excluding the value of benefits)? What is the real value of what you do for Express?

    I don't know what else one would call it, when they are working for an employer and only getting compensated at roughly 2/3rds what they should be...

    I think being "bentover" by your employer sums up the situation rather well - afterall, you're getting screwed, its not to your liking, and I don't think you are giving advance "consent" to the screwing...

    Leave, organize or bendover. Those were the options available to Express employees. Now the organize option has been effectively eliminated.

    As far as the prison analogy (you started it, I'll continue its use...), inmates tend to form "gangs" for self protection, to prevent from being taken to the showers as individuals by those more powerful than them.

    What can the "inmates" of Express do to prevent themselves from being taken to the showers as individuals by those who are more powerful than them???

    Unions may not be gangs, but they do serve to protect those who don't have power as individuals, from those who do have power.
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