Re: Center Mgr Quits

**trickpony1** · 11-23-2006 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by scratch_king

What in the Hell was George555's post about?:confused1

I don't know either but I'm sure a particular management poster will counterpoint it.

**upsdawg** · 11-26-2006 06:00 PM

Speaking of managers leaving--------this is the time of year that they should do it--right before peak season.With some UPS training, most of our managers could go elsewhere and be an asset to companies----and I see more of our younger Mangers doing it before they get locked in by age--or stock.

I have known some managers who are doing quite well with other companies----there is life after UPS!!

hangingon-----a buy out like GM???? I see UPS doing something and than from that point on there will be no more Teamsters Pension Plan------it will be a 401k match, that the employee has control over.I think it is close to being a reality for non-union UPSers------and I really think it would be a good way for UPS to get away from bankrolling the Teamsters--especailly those Teamsters who never worked for UPS, but UPS is subsidizing their pensions!! I would think this will be one of the options in the new 2008 Contract???

**satellitedriver** · 11-26-2006 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by speeddemon

Our center manager put in his two week notice a few days ago. Hes going to work for a architectual firm. Ups just spent big money on buying him a home to move him back from where he was. Could this be the beginning of a trend?

I have seen 13 center managers come and go in 20 years. It is not new trend.

**ups_vette** · 11-27-2006 12:37 PM

wkmack...... I found your post on the 3 stage extend with a 1800 unload rate to be quite detailed You put in a lot of thought to reach your conclusion that a 1800 unload rate is not obtainable. However, the one thing you had not considered was that the 1800 rate is based on GROSS number of packages. I'm sure you're aware that a typical inbound hub load contains bags of smalls. These bags contain an average of 25-30 or more small packages These smalls reduce the gross number of packages in a trailor by 22 to 27%.

A trailor with 1800 packages contains 20 bags of smalls, with an average of 25 packages per bag. This reduces the 1800 GROSS packages to 1320 NET packages. (1800-500+20=1320)

Thus the 3 stage extendo need only to handle 1300 to 1400 NET packages per hour, a rate that is obtainable

**Jlemansk** · 11-27-2006 06:43 PM

I hate it when some smuck says drivers make 80k a year?? I work about 6 hours overtime every week and will just make 65k. Drivers pay is in the 50k range before overtime. I

**breadbooze** · 11-27-2006 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jlemansk

I hate it when some smuck says drivers make 80k a year?? I work about 6 hours overtime every week and will just make 65k. Drivers pay is in the 50k range before overtime. I

The drivers I know in metro NY make 80-90k a year. The guys around here are around 60-75k. the COLA varies by region I think

DS · 11-27-2006 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by wkmac

Not picking on drivers as they are the heartbeat of the company .

Hey wkmac this is so true.Too bad UPS has not found a way to create a positive way for them to participate in the growth of the company instead of making thier job next to impossible.

**beano8** · 11-27-2006 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by tieguy

Wily , you're right on the money. Going to be an interesting experiment. We have about 15 openings in the district and have two applicants that have passed the new promotion process. Good young kids that have shown the ability to lead under fire can't get past the tests. Once the applicant fails he can't retest for a year. Wouldn't be surprised to see some talent leave the company rather than take a chance on waiting a year and failing again.

Hey Tie. Actually if someone doesn't pass the test, they can retest after 6 months. Maybe they do it different in your district, but in my district it is 6 months.

**LKLND3380** · 11-28-2006 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by speeddemon

I will try to get some numbers on this next week, but as I see it, the harder they push UPS labor, our accidents and injuries have gone up too. There goes your savings into the red bigtime.

Seems like this same thing happens at my center...

NOW
We are getting 21 trailers now and running 7 unloaders/7 sorters and doing in within 4 1/2 hours

BEFORE PEAK
we were getting 18 trailers and running 6 unloaders/6 sorters and doing it within 4 1/2 hours... (we average 17 to 19 trailers non peak)

So we have increased the amount of work flow but not the amount of time allowed... So that guy who was stacked out before is getting blown out and burried loading those same trucks.

We already had two injuries this week...

**tieguy** · 11-29-2006 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by trickpony1

I don't know either but I'm sure a particular management poster will counterpoint it.

who's that?

**tieguy** · 11-29-2006 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by beano8

Hey Tie. Actually if someone doesn't pass the test, they can retest after 6 months. Maybe they do it different in your district, but in my district it is 6 months.

yea they changed the time period to six months in my district also. The point basically remains the same. Some of our more talented management candidates may leave rather then wait for the opportunity to retest. From my perspective the new maps process gives us a consistent method to evaluate all candidates but does not always give us the best method to assess the skill level of each applicant.

**trickpony1** · 11-29-2006 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by tieguy

who's that?

Not you. Of the several management posters on this board, you are the only one that offers just a shred of civility.

You may have missed the referenced post (georges555) as it seems to have disappeared. It was a classic.

Why the paranoia?

**fredly00** · 11-29-2006 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jlemansk

I hate it when some smuck says drivers make 80k a year?? I work about 6 hours overtime every week and will just make 65k. Drivers pay is in the 50k range before overtime. I

Not even close, in my roughest estimation, I'll almost make 50K this year
but since I'm not at top scale, that means I'm about $12/hr short for the year
roughly 2500 hours in so far. take 20% for taxes(or so) thats another 24k on
top of that.(of course that doesn't take into account overtime, thats just straight pay)
Either way we get paid well for an otherwise demanding job.

**Jlemansk** · 11-29-2006 03:42 PM

Maybe in your state you guys make more per hour Fred. I have done the math and if I worked just 40 hour weeks at full pay I would come in around 57k. Now that is a stretch from 80k. I dont base my income on overtime, I cant stand working overtime. Bottom line is the more overtime you work the higher your income is going to be. Base pay is in the 50k range in Florida.

**satellitedriver** · 11-29-2006 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by trickpony1

Not you. Of the several management posters on this board, you are the only one that offers just a shred of civility.

You may have missed the referenced post (georges555) as it seems to have disappeared. It was a classic.

Why the paranoia?

Who said dat? When I said ,who said dat. Paranoia? That is one of the least things I would have thought of Tie. He is civil and well spoken with his views. If you think (georges555) post was classic, maybe you should rethink that. There was a reason it was pulled.

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