Do you derive a sense of purpose from UPS?

[scratch]

He is a good guy, I'm happy that he got into a career that he enjoys. The cut in pay amazed me, he had made it through three years of driver progression and was making top pay. I think he works maybe three 12 hours shifts a week and gets to ride around in the A/C all day. Recently got married and gets to spend a lot of time with his pretty wife.

[UPS Lifer]

That's old school thinking. I used to agree but circumstances have changed. Putting that stress on myself isn't in my pay band description. Atlanta is handcuffing us and taking over local decisions like hiring and I'm not going to pretend they're not. It's no big deal, UPS is just changing management styles. Atlanta wants to run things and I'm content to let them.

Since when did a manager become a glorified supervisor? Don't you still get 2 units?

This is a defeatist attitude and an excuse not to do the job you are assigned to do. I was a manager for 20+ years in my 35+ year career. As a manager, I saw 20 years of change in "management style(s)".

You may call it "old school", but I call it experience. The benefit of having a mentor is the ability to acquire knowledge without having to go through the sometimes tough journey that brings you experience or wisdom.

I actually remember when a preload could shut the rear door of every vehicle and turn off the lights a half hour before the drivers started. I knew it could be done and was able to take that knowledge to other areas and work hard to make it happen again. There was no defeatist attitude because I actually HAD succeeded in doing it.

I know that the easy answer is "well you have been gone for 5 years so you don't know what you are talking about." BUT, I heard the exact same thing you posted above before I retired. You need to have the attitude that your center is your responsibility. Use out of the box thinking to reach your goals, fight for your activities to reach the goals. Show your bosses how you are making gains.

You want to know how to do this? Treat your people with dignity and respect and ask them for their help. Show them how to help. Give them an at-a-boy when they do it. Create challenges and rewards - take it out of your own pocket if you have to.

As a manager, I would be embarrassed to make the highlighted comment above.

[ymelord]

As a manager, I would be embarrassed to make the highlighted comment above.

(I agree with SignificantOwner)

I had reached my goals. They have all been trashed by the incompetence of two DMs, one CM, and one on car sup who was too scared of losing his job to be any help. I still care about the job I do for my customers, but as far as UPS, it's by the methods, in trace, no favors. 30 years of experence, I have never seen this company in such a mess. Crazy dispatches, huge days, lots of misloads, incompetant people ripping our azzes, why would we be committed to the job. You have to fight UPS, and Fedex to keep customers. It's not worth the fight anymore.

[leastbest]

Twenty five years into my career I had a new supervisor take all my pickups off me to try and improve my performance. I complained to him and my CM that the pickups had been my customers for twenty five years. They both told me that I didn't have customers, UPS had customers. Since the pickups had no driver they were given out as best they could and I'd get them back once in a while. After a few weeks they forgot to tell me that I had them that day and we missed most of the sixteen pickups. Customers were angry and we lost some business.

I had worked very hard to build that customer base but they were right. They weren't my customers. After that the job got much easier. I had a service job with no customers.

[LTDIN MAINE]

I'm a old time UPSers, 22 years, I'm a lifer. I'm happy with the the job. However, I'm glad that I'm not starting out with the co. It' s not the same.

[LTDIN MAINE]

I've seen a CM berate and embarrass drivers withe 25+ seniority over performance in the PCM, I find this unacceptable.

[big_arrow_up]

I've seen a CM berate and embarrass drivers withe 25+ seniority over performance in the PCM, I find this unacceptable.

There isn't a male performance pill on Earth that would make me want to tangle with my CM.....oh NEVERMIND.

[728ups]

I've seen a CM berate and embarrass drivers withe 25+ seniority over performance in the PCM, I find this unacceptable.

There is a good way to handle people like that. We had a CM pull stunts like that( he is now the Pre load supe in Scratch's building) and after BURYING that man in grievances the harassment stopped torwards the hourlies. Of course after that our driver supes got beaten twice as hard,as they had no protection

[PASinterference]

Im an old timer and Ive seen how the company has changed... for the worse in my opinion. I see new hires who are scared to death to take 5 minutes lunch and the drive like a weapon on the road, having 99% of all accidents in our center. The newer hires dont care if the packages get delivered or not.They spend more time trying to find a reason to bring the package back than it would take to deliver the damn thing.I hope this is what UPS wanted because it sure is what they are stuck with.

[spankyup]

Old timer 36 years... retired..When I began we worked together. If a cm or dm needed to put their browns on...they did it and we would get it all delivered.. now weather conditions bs, all on different agenda. Service not important.. Safety ! memorize key points .. should spend the monies and repair the worn or defective equiptment brown guys use every day, that would be safety...On the good side..miss my customers every day...Circle of H was best thank you UPS ever gave . Have a fine retirement and still bleed brown but its hard to watch the change..