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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldworld View Post
    Upstate,didn't you deliver a stop on your way home in your personal car a few times....what is the difference between this and what op has been discussing????your off the clock,have no official dot markings, and don't have company insurance when your off....what would happen if you got in aN accident and the police found out you were delivering ???
    I have done the same thing as well. A handful of times in 6 years. No, it's not supposed to be done and yes, it was done with the approval of management. And yes, I was paid for my time. I have also signed for pkgs for a friend and taken them home with me. With the friends approval because she was out of town.

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    This is a company issue, not a union issue as Jon suggests. And since you are not in the union......

    This violates a ton of UPS policies. UPS is the only entity that can authorize anyone to use their personal vehicles for delivery purposes. Not the driver.

    Secondly, as has been mentioned, you are driving without insurance when you attempt this type of action. Your insurance will not cover you when you are delivering, and since UPS did not authorize your car use, neither will theirs. So any accident you might be involved in will screw you for life. You can also be ticketed if you get pulled over for not having insurance in most states.

    Then, add the fact that during this time of the year especially, there are a lot of people watching other people. A car or truck with a lot of packages in it will be interesting enough, considering that there is quite a business stealing packages that have been already delivered, or off docks like Upstate mentioned. People are looking and if they see you, I would suspect someone will call the police. I know I would.

    There is no way in hell, if I were you, that I would ever consider using the personal vehicle for delivery, without express permission from UPS management. Period.

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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    Maybe he will blackball you if you say no. Better speak to management and ask for another driver to work with.

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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy View Post
    V5

    This is a company issue, not a union issue as Jon suggests. And since you are not in the union......

    This violates a ton of UPS policies. UPS is the only entity that can authorize anyone to use their personal vehicles for delivery purposes. Not the driver.

    Secondly, as has been mentioned, you are driving without insurance when you attempt this type of action. Your insurance will not cover you when you are delivering, and since UPS did not authorize your car use, neither will theirs. So any accident you might be involved in will screw you for life. You can also be ticketed if you get pulled over for not having insurance in most states.

    Then, add the fact that during this time of the year especially, there are a lot of people watching other people. A car or truck with a lot of packages in it will be interesting enough, considering that there is quite a business stealing packages that have been already delivered, or off docks like Upstate mentioned. People are looking and if they see you, I would suspect someone will call the police. I know I would.

    There is no way in hell, if I were you, that I would ever consider using the personal vehicle for delivery, without express permission from UPS management. Period.

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    Danny, I assume it was suggested to the Original Poster that he use his own vehicle. But that it hasn't happened yet. So that's why I say take it to the Union first, since it's just a theoretical issue at this point. If the driver ordered the OP to use his personal vehicle, then that would create a immediate issue and Management would have to be informed.

    Everyone in the Bargaining Unit is covered by the Union Contract, not just Union members. Bargaining Unit work is covered no matter who does it. Only Bargaining Unit Members, (which includes Union and non-Union workers,) may properly do Bargaining Unit work.

    I'm still thinking the driver is joking about this, but using your own vehicle is not exactly unheard of by UPS or the Teamsters:

    ARTICLE 40. AIR OPERATION
    Section 1 - Air Drivers
    (i) Personal Vehicles
    "Air Exception drivers will use the Employer’s vehicles whenever possible. Air Exception drivers who would happen to use their personal automobiles shall be reimbursed at the IRS limit applicable per mile for all miles driven to perform the air driving work in addition to their air driver wages. When an employee uses his/her own vehicle in the service of the Employer and is involved in an accident, the Employer shall be responsible for the damages to both the employee’s vehicle and to the other person’s vehicle and/or property, and will provide liability insurance coverage."

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    I used my car to deliver out of for several peaks. Difference is, I was paid driver rate and paid milage. The Union and Management were well aware of the situation and it was approved by both parties. It was quite a sweet deal. The people in the Clayton/Cape Vincent area expect a silver Subaru Outback driving around filled with packages.
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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    UPS just delivered my package from a Buick.
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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

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    I understand delivery out of personal vehicles. I have done it many times, especially when the company started to cut back "spares" at our building. I remember once delivering 260+ in one trip out of my Isuzu Pick up during the storm of the century in the 80's. That day I was the only UPS driver delivering out of our center.

    But this is totally different. And it involves a seasonal worker. ITs hard enough to get the union to take action on serious labor issues that involve our company, let alone another member of the union. Like getting the union to take action on drivers that work off the clock. That is against the contract and law, but very very few times have I ever seen more than a passing interest in stopping the practice.

    By the time the union got involved and actually did something, it would be spring time. Shame, but reality.

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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    Quote Originally Posted by menotyou View Post
    I used my car to deliver out of for several peaks. Difference is, I was paid driver rate and paid milage. The Union and Management were well aware of the situation and it was approved by both parties. It was quite a sweet deal. The people in the Clayton/Cape Vincent area expect a silver Subaru Outback driving around filled with packages.
    I thought you had more sence than that.

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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    Quote Originally Posted by menotyou View Post
    I used my car to deliver out of for several peaks. Difference is, I was paid driver rate and paid milage. The Union and Management were well aware of the situation and it was approved by both parties. It was quite a sweet deal. The people in the Clayton/Cape Vincent area expect a silver Subaru Outback driving around filled with packages.
    That's like play Russian roulette.
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    Re: driver helper driving own vehicle?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket man View Post
    I thought you had more sence than that.
    Quote Originally Posted by upsguy72 View Post
    That's like play Russian roulette.
    In today's UPS, I wouldn't do it. But, back then, I gave 1000%. They have taught me that they don't appreciate that.
    I did make a ton of money and UPS made half my car payments, though.
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