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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftinbuilding View Post
    USPS does not pay Federal Taxes. Do they pay road use taxes? Vehicle registration fees? Fairly sizable exemptions. So saying they "receive no taxpayer monies" is a typical liberal twist of words.
    The only taxpayer money the USPS uses is money spent on laws for the elderly and govermental use. That is tax payer money. There is no taxpayer money being used for operational purposes directly allocated out of the US treasury.

    The only twist my friend is in your mind. Was that the best offering you could come up with to fit your dialog of Foxed spews reporting?

    You are talking about exemptions and not operational costs. I challenged all of you right wing drones to POST something that demonstrates where the federal goverment and the US treasury allocates money for the operational aspect of the postal service, and none of you can do it.

    The best you could come up with is exemptions.

    Pretty weak. A used Tea Bag would have a stronger argument, and I dont mean Michele Bachman.

    None of you have the first clue how the USPS operates other than what you have heard from right wing blowhards whos intention was to mis informe you in the first place.

    When Reagan changed the post office in 1980, he ended all tax payer sudsidies for the postal service. At that time in history, USPS revenue was at all time highs. Expansion was on the horizon. Nobody knew that 20 years later, the internet would ultimately kill the postal service and their business model.

    No matter what the reality is, the GOVERMENT does not run the postal service, and if you are a person who says "they do", you need to find out for yourself what reality is, and then stop saying that.

    It is a privately run business for the goverment and not a goverment agency.

    Lets keep the facts straight.

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    Leftinbuilding......welcome to the "dummies' club. Believe me, you are in good company!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moreluck View Post
    Leftinbuilding......welcome to the "dummies' club. Believe me, you are in good company!!!
    LOL, he is fun. What he lacks in intelligence, he makes up for in arrogance. I guarantee you he screams about the "tax loopholes" enjoyed by some corporations, and how they are helped by the feds because they don't pay their "fair share." Yet he can't/won't see it with the USPS. Oh well, somebody has to vote for Obama, LOL.
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    The "Smartest Person in Brown Cafe" is calling fellow posters dumb. A tactic of of an ideologue and rules for radicals. Pretty soon he will tell anybody that does that follow his ideas will hurt kids, kitties, puppies, grandma, holidays, parakeets, Disneyland, grass, heroes, vegetables, clouds, rivers, Mighty Mouse, Eskimos... what did I miss?
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    The "Smartest Person in Brown Cafe" is calling fellow posters dumb and uninformed. A tactic of an ideologue and community organizer. Soon posters who try to make a cognizant point will be accused of hurting kids, kitties, puppies, unions, grandma, holidays, parakeets, Disneyland, grass, heroes, vegetables, clouds, rivers, Mighty Mouse, Eskimos and polar bears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Side View Post
    The only taxpayer money the USPS uses is money spent on laws for the elderly and govermental use. That is tax payer money. There is no taxpayer money being used for operational purposes directly allocated out of the US treasury.

    The only twist my friend is in your mind. Was that the best offering you could come up with to fit your dialog of Foxed spews reporting?

    You are talking about exemptions and not operational costs. I challenged all of you right wing drones to POST something that demonstrates where the federal goverment and the US treasury allocates money for the operational aspect of the postal service, and none of you can do it.

    The best you could come up with is exemptions.

    Pretty weak. A used Tea Bag would have a stronger argument, and I dont mean Michele Bachman.

    None of you have the first clue how the USPS operates other than what you have heard from right wing blowhards whos intention was to mis informe you in the first place.

    When Reagan changed the post office in 1980, he ended all tax payer sudsidies for the postal service. At that time in history, USPS revenue was at all time highs. Expansion was on the horizon. Nobody knew that 20 years later, the internet would ultimately kill the postal service and their business model.

    No matter what the reality is, the GOVERMENT does not run the postal service, and if you are a person who says "they do", you need to find out for yourself what reality is, and then stop saying that.

    It is a privately run business for the goverment and not a goverment agency.

    Lets keep the facts straight.

    Peace.
    Not going to get on here and call you names, because I am better than that. So here is your reality check. . . but first a brief history of the United States Postal Service. Benjamin Franklin was the First Post Master General which can be traced back to 1775. In 1792, the Post Office Department was created from Franklin's operation. Then, under the Postal Reorganization Act of 1971, it became what it is today. You are correct in saying that it has not received tax payers money since the 1980's. Although that was in fact agreed upon by Democrats and Republicans alike. The Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service sets these policies that the Postal Service runs under. Most of the people that set on this board are Presidential Appointees. Which you can fact check this under the United States Code 201. The Post Office is often mistaken for a government owned corporation, but legally defined under the United States Code 201 as an independent establishment of the executive branch of the government of the United States. Which again, is controlled by Presidential Appointees. It is a quasi-governmental agency which has sovereign immunity. Just an example, they cannot be sued and they have imminent domain powers, but they can be sued by their own employees, such as for discrimination, wage disputes, etc. They also exercise imminent Domain Powers. Fact check. . . In 2004 the Supreme Court ruled that the United States Postal Service was not a government owned corporation. Your confusing the Post Office with AmTrak. AmTrak is a government run corporation. In 2005, the Supreme Court again recognized the right of the Post Office to have imminent domain powers over mailboxes. It is a federal offense for anyone other than the Post Office to use mailboxes. Fact Check. . . . Know your history, know your general laws, then you will know yourself and your Country. Have a good day
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    The "Smartest Person in Brown Cafe" is calling fellow posters dumb and uninformed. A tactic of an ideologue and community organizer. Soon posters who try to make a cognizant point will be accused of hurting kids, kitties, puppies, unions, grandma, holidays, parakeets, Disneyland, grass, heroes, vegetables, clouds, rivers, Mighty Mouse, Eskimos and polar bears.
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    Ok, now I am the smartest person on brown cafe, and I didnt say a word hardly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steward71 View Post
    Not going to get on here and call you names, because I am better than that. So here is your reality check. . . but first a brief history of the United States Postal Service. Benjamin Franklin was the First Post Master General which can be traced back to 1775. In 1792, the Post Office Department was created from Franklin's operation. Then, under the Postal Reorganization Act of 1971, it became what it is today. You are correct in saying that it has not received tax payers money since the 1980's. Although that was in fact agreed upon by Democrats and Republicans alike. The Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service sets these policies that the Postal Service runs under. Most of the people that set on this board are Presidential Appointees. Which you can fact check this under the United States Code 201. The Post Office is often mistaken for a government owned corporation, but legally defined under the United States Code 201 as an independent establishment of the executive branch of the government of the United States. Which again, is controlled by Presidential Appointees. It is a quasi-governmental agency which has sovereign immunity. Just an example, they cannot be sued and they have imminent domain powers, but they can be sued by their own employees, such as for discrimination, wage disputes, etc. They also exercise imminent Domain Powers. Fact check. . . In 2004 the Supreme Court ruled that the United States Postal Service was not a government owned corporation. Your confusing the Post Office with AmTrak. AmTrak is a government run corporation. In 2005, the Supreme Court again recognized the right of the Post Office to have imminent domain powers over mailboxes. It is a federal offense for anyone other than the Post Office to use mailboxes. Fact Check. . . . Know your history, know your general laws, then you will know yourself and your Country. Have a good day
    Where's the old NBC "the more you know" logo? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by superballs63 View Post
    Where's the old NBC "the more you know" logo? lol
    Dont' need NBC, CBS, ABC or FOX to know the truth about what is fact and unlike others on this site will stand corrected when I know I'm wrong and will not make fun of others view points.
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