Power zone ends & end range motion begins.

[Kruldingo]

We have an insurance rep that comes in to give us tips/advise on safety. To my surprise, 1 of these insurance reps & my sup stopped on my route the other day as part of an observation they were performing on me. I must say I was a little upset that a non-UPS employee is going on observes with my mngmnt team although I was explained to later that the insurance rep was only with mngmnt to train them on how to make observes more positive that just all negative with discipline ta boot. Anyway I took the time to ask this LM rep where power zone ends & end range motion begins giving the example of grabbing the handrail leaving a pkg car. Even for a slight second everyone's arm is bent back out of "power zone" till your feet touch the ground. The LM rep told me this is not end range motion & I argued how you could still be in your power zone in this position. Needless to say the LM rep became so frustrated with my argument that he lost his biz like composure & exaggerated my examples & said in frustration "I don't know why you guys have to get so technical?!" it's apparent he doesn't realize what company he is dealing with nor has sat with an employee who has been thoroughly integregated after reporting an injury. Ironoic enough I had sustained a shoulder injury in prior weeks to this encounter which UPS dubbed as an end range motion injury & I've been calling a wear & tear injury.

[UpstateNYUPSer]

In your own words--"I was a little upset that a non-UPS person is going on observs"--it sounds to me as though you didn't appreciate that the LM rep was there and that you became unnecessarily confrontational with that person.

[Kruldingo]

The rep did explain his intentions while on the observe which did ease the concern of a non-UPSer watching me. As I didn't really have time to think about it till afterwards that I don't think any person in any job would want an employee from outside their company observing them & without ever having done their job & explain to them what they could do better.

[rocket man]

In your own words--"I was a little upset that a non-UPS person is going on observs"--it sounds to me as though you didn't appreciate that the LM rep was there and that you became unnecessarily confrontational with that person.

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[UpstateNYUPSer]

The rep did explain his intentions while on the observe which did ease the concern of a non-UPSer watching me. As I didn't really have time to think about it till afterwards that I don't think any person in any job would want an employee from outside their company observing them & without ever having done their job & explain to them what they could do better.

The LM rep was not trying to tell you how to do your job--he was trying to tell you how to do it more safely.

[Kruldingo]

Safety is safety & should be practiced on & off the job. I am a true believer in that. However if my personal vehicle insurance rep stopped me at say a gas station & says I've watched you on your last 5 stops & noticed you forgot to use your turn signal once & didn't completely stop 3 times. That person would receive a swift boot in the ass by me, a call to the police for stalking, a call to that insurance company's HQ about their practices, & an immediate change in insurances!

[UpstateNYUPSer]

The difference being you pay the premiums on your personal policy while UPS pays for theirs. Wouldn't you want to get the best return on your investment by trying to reduce the number of claims/injuries?

I agree with you in that I wouldn't want an outside person telling me how to do my job either, especially on area; however, if this person is able to point out something that I may be doing incorrectly or if changed would make me more productive/efficient I would listen objectively and may change my routine.

Now, if observations made by this person were to lead to discipline of any kind...

[over9five]

Funny how they preach all this "end range"
crap, but when you call them on it they start crying that you're too technical.
Give me a break.

[Kruldingo]

That's pretty much the point I'm tryin to make here. I asked the professional blantenly where the power zone ends & the end range motion begins & I'm responded with frustration & asked why we get so technical. None of my mngmnt can even give me an exact description to my question.

[over9five]

UPS recently bought thousands of new containers (trailers). Every one of them is hard to close and the handles are mounted above your head. Talk about end range! They seem to be designed to wreck your shoulders and back.

Anyhow, I laugh at their "end range" bs every time I have to close one of their new trailers.