Is there really a high turnover rate?

[whiskey]

I just purchased Rossetastone Chinese at a kiosk at the mall for a mere $565.00. A small investment for my kids future.

[Returntosender]

I just purchased Rossetastone Chinese at a kiosk at the mall for a mere $565.00. A small investment for my kids future.

let them watch kung fu in chinese. They will pick up the language faster.

[Loufan]

When I was hired it was a class of about twenty. The HR guy had one eye and I remember thinking WTF. Here it is almost twenty years later and there are two of us left. Me and a guy who eventually got to feeders. There was also a guy who became full-time management. The power went out about six years ago and be went up to a local convenient store and bought a couple cases of beer. When the power came on and his people were drunk he got his fired. Lol

Wow 20 years later and there's still 2 of you. That's still pretty awesome.
I had about 40 people in my class. I got hired on right before the recession and we were extremely busy. We were getting all kinds of hours until things went south. Now 4 years later there's still 1 other person at UPS from my training class. I still can't believe to this day all those people quit during the worst recession in a long time. Now things are a lot busier and we seem to be getting a lot more hours these days.

[kmjs14]

Im not trying to start an argument, Im saying that this generation has more "wants" that they think are "needs", and can't differentiate between the two any more. And neither can their parents.

Totally agree! I also think people are thinking "needs" more now with the downturn of the economy. Less plastic and more savings.

[Local804guy4life]

In my building the Nassau Hub the biggest turn over problem we have is the full-time management team. They simply cannot get a set team in place. They keep quitting one by one. Now even the part timers are wising up to the situation. Last I heard we were down seven part time supervisors. Another fact UPS hides is there poor management turnover. In my building nobody wants to become a part time supervisor. They have resorted to begging week two new hires to become supervisors. Sad.........

[Aarmin]

Serious question. How do package handlers apply for a job? There are never any open positions posted online at UPS's Career website.

[hondo]

Serious question. How do package handlers apply for a job? There are never any open positions posted online at UPS's Career website.

Try going to the building you want to work at in person. I know of a building here that never posts openings online, yet regularly hires due to turnover.
Try around 8:30 or 9am.

[ORLY!?!]

You're preaching to the wrong person. I'm in it for the long haul, I love the company, but I think the company dynamic is messed up. But, I also see why they do it the way they do.

I never said, McDonalds was even comparable. Heck, if anyone realizes the importance of the benefits that UPS has its me, I went to the hospital for a month this year and had my colon removed. 4 surgeries later and a hospital bill that came out to nearly $300k. I ended up paying about $300 of that. I also got my Associates Degree paid for by UPS.

If that would have happened to me as a McDonalds employee, I would have been SOL.

What I'm trying to get to, is that old-timers shouldn't be calling on my generations work ethic (I'm 25 yo, by the way). Because when all of you were hired you had it a lot better with the company than kids who are working $125 dollar pay checks for a weeks worth of work and don't get any benefits for a year. Even employees like me, who were hired on the last contract have it much better than those on this current one.

Definitely different times.

Yep, the benifits are outstanding here.

The problem these old timers are complaining about are the 200 of the other wastes of space workers they are come across in their seniority. I see it all the time as well. Some missload on purpose to get better jobs, how do I know? A guy I worked with admitted it to a bunch of people. News spreads fast at a UPS HUB. And thats only the tip of the iceberg.

The real problem lays upon the soups that are supposed to lead and teach these people. Another is the union, everyone gets a pass here at UPS. People really stretch that one out.

Over all the quality has gone way down. Poor leadership and the unions influence has huge effects towards the quality of this job.

This job used to be all about quality, I wish they inverted back to those days I've heard about due to research. Its the reason I joined up, to be apart of something great and well respected. But the examples here and else where are way below even the standard.

[iowa boy]

This job used to be all about quality, I wish they inverted back to those days I've heard about due to research. Its the reason I joined up, to be apart of something great and well respected. But the examples here and else where are way below even the standard.[/QUOTE]

You are so right with this last paragraph. This job used to be about quality as that set us apart from all of our competition. Now the higher ups have found out that numbers are more important than the quality element. When the numbers run the operation, every other aspect, (quality, safety, you name it,) becomes second fiddle.

[dannyboy]

Interesting thread.

I used to have one of the stubs from early on. Take home was around 38 bucks for a full week of part time work. Not a great deal of money, but it was a bit higher than min. wage. Adn the hours were what I needed as well. But back then, to have a part time job, you had to be a full time student too. So there was no time to get another job. Each quarter, you had to show you were still in school, or you would be let go.

I went into driving in the 70's. A customer of mine at Mcdonalds had just started on the morning shift, then promoted to the shift manager. The year I retired with blown out knees and the basic retirement, he was the owner of 6 Mcdonald stores in the area, including the one he started at as a cash register jocky. So comparing McDonalds to UPS is not always a win for UPS.

That being said, in our area, it take 5-8 years to go from new hire to driver if you are lucky. Wendys and Taco Bell start their people out at $9.50 an hour, a dollar more than you can make at UPS. And that wage includes insurance. In my business, I have to shell out at least $10 an hour or more to even have a chance at a decent hire. So that leaves UPS to scrape the bottom of the workforce barrel. So is it any wonder that the retention rate sucks.

The only thing in the part timers favor in the next few years is the retirement rate of the drivers hired in the boom decade of UPS's growth.

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