fedex earnings up 40%This is a discussion on fedex earnings up 40% within the FedEx Discussions forums, part of the The Competition category; http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14937263/from/ET/...  | |
09-21-2006, 07:39 AM
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#1 | | Member
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Rep Power: 23 | fedex earnings up 40% |
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09-21-2006, 07:48 AM
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#2 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% And the reason they are down presently is because after reporting their earnings they used the word "BUT". It's just like when the FED reports interest rates.......it's not the rise or fall being reported, but the sentiment that follows that moves the markets.
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09-21-2006, 10:07 AM
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#3 | | monte carlo 11 and 12
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% another strong quarter for the good guys!! |
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09-22-2006, 10:35 AM
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#4 | | I live dilbert
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Rep Power: 27230 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Who are these "good guys" you refer to? Fred smith and his boys who claim to make dramatic increases in profits yet don't share them with you?
Investors responded negatively to the "good news" It appears they are seeing past the smoke and mirrors of a Fdx earnings presentation.
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09-22-2006, 10:02 PM
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#5 | | Member
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Rep Power: 20 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% They don't want to tell you how they achieved those numbers. Fedex Express is being raped by its own cousin company fedex Ground and Home Delivery who are independent contractors. You shovel more and more of you business through this zero labor cost business plan, and yes your "profits" go up.
Just wait, oh man just wait until all those class action lawsuits are awarded to the independent contractors and then the proverbial snowball starts rolling. Fred:*******: is either going to have to pay these ICs big money or accept them as "employees" thus taking on huge labor costs as well as benefits, vehicular maintenance, and on and on that he currently has the IC pay for. I don't think he has that kind of cash laying around like UPS does. One day his business model will implode on him and the stock prices and dividends will be in the pennies, his earnings in single digit numbers. |
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09-23-2006, 03:56 AM
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#6 | | Need LS7 powered PKG car
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Rep Power: 996 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% This is why UPS says they are not worried, they are looking into the long term.. |
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09-23-2006, 08:17 PM
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#7 | | Anonymous | Re: fedex earnings up 40% I get a kick out of how these ups people can't admit FDX is kicking their butt. We are on a roll, and this is just the beginniing. I hope you guys don't have another disasterous quarter, don't know how your company can afford you high priced drivers. Thats going to change though...in the years to come the Union is going to ask for concessions for you guys to stay competitive. Thats when the fireworks will begin. | |
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09-25-2006, 11:34 AM
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#8 | | I live dilbert
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Rep Power: 27230 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWN OBSERVER I get a kick out of how these ups people can't admit FDX is kicking their butt. We are on a roll, and this is just the beginniing. I hope you guys don't have another disasterous quarter, don't know how your company can afford you high priced drivers. Thats going to change though...in the years to come the Union is going to ask for concessions for you guys to stay competitive. Thats when the fireworks will begin. | If "kicking our but" is announcing a "40 percent gain" in profits and then watching the stock drop two bucks a share then keep kicking that but.
By the way a real 40 percent gain in profits coupled with the rapid decline in fuel prices should have sent your stock through the roof. The investors saw something they did not like.
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09-25-2006, 03:35 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 5396 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% "Percentages" can be misleading. If UPS and FEDEX were neck to neck in revenues then a huge "percentage" advantage would be significant. But, conceivably UPS could enjoy a big "real dollar" advantage on a lower "percentage" report. For instance, if you had $100.00 and had a 10% increase, you gained $10.00. If I had $400.00 and had a 5% increase, I gained $20.00. Same applies to package increases. Don't go gaga over percentages. If UPS had, say, a 40% increase in pkgs, FEDEX would be EX-FEDEX. |
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09-25-2006, 04:00 PM
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#10 | | golden ticket member
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Rep Power: 22552 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% FedEx to spend $2.6 bln to replace fleet
By Ana Campoy
Last Update: Sep 25, 2006 FDX ) on Monday said it will spend $2.6 billion in a multi-year program to buy and modify about 90 Boeing Co 757-200 aircraft to replace FedEx Express's fleet of Boeing 727-200s. The company said it doesn't expect the program to materially affect earnings. Replacing the planes will result in lower operating costs and reduce green house emissions, it added. FedEx included the capital impact of the program on the current fiscal year in its first-quarter earnings release. It added that its capital spending forecast for 2007 remains at $3 billion. FedEx Express expects to bring the new aircraft into service between 2008 and 2016.
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09-26-2006, 07:51 AM
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#11 | | Telling it like it is
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Rep Power: 28 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% UPS is boring, anyone who works for the company knows that. For 99 years boring has equaled long term success. I'm cool with no headline grabbing numbers like 40% increase in earnings, don't need a big splash to be successful. |
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09-28-2006, 11:01 PM
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Rep Power: 20 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Smoke and mirrors. Fred smith will be doing time shortly with the Enron dude. Oh I forgot, he died in jail. Sucks to be him. |
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10-11-2006, 04:00 PM
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#13 | | Junior Member
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% After spending 18 years with a company I was proud to work for only to find out Ive been in a bad relationship since day 1.......Boy was I naive...Fedex Express has NO RESPECT for their hourly employees. They use us around the holidays and summer comes and your burnt toast. Salaried employees do not have to modify their diets only the idiots that go out and break their backs for this company. Bitter do you think ? Absolutely......Wait until your knees and hips start killing you along with your back and they will do everything possible to get rid of you. Life span of a courier is 10 years on the job than they know body parts start failing. So stop your bull about which company is better....Bottom line is profit for both ..... Oh and by the way Fedex Ground drivers......Good Luck |
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10-12-2006, 04:29 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% I agree with chump 100%. I worked on Ground side for nearly 2.5 years as both a package handler and a service manager. It seems everyone I have talked to, upon hearing that I work for Fedex, say "thats great, aren't they an awesome company?" Maybe in the past, but not now. I worked for both UPS and Fedex, and I really cant say which was better. All this buzz about how big ground is becoming is a lie. Fedex ground has been and always will be the red headed stepchild of the small parcel industry. The company cares little about customer service, and their employees are treated as disposable commodities. Chump is right, both are out for profit, but honestly, when it comes to the end, UPS will come out on top. As for me, I am still in college and could care less about having a career with Fedex. With the way they treat their hourlies (handlers) I couldnt in good conscience stay in my position. I am not bitter however, as I have obtained a higher paying (teamster) job, with which I can actually live off of. |
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10-21-2006, 03:32 AM
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#15 | | More stops than Santa
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Quote:
Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason UPS is boring, anyone who works for the company knows that. For 99 years boring has equaled long term success. I'm cool with no headline grabbing numbers like 40% increase in earnings, don't need a big splash to be successful. | Thats what i've always thought, UPS have been the biggest for years and years and now Fed Ex is getting as big so their earnings will reflect that where as you get to a point where UPS has been for a long time where you just go along with average increases in revenue as the big jumps in profits have already got you to that position |
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10-24-2006, 02:46 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Rico They don't want to tell you how they achieved those numbers. Fedex Express is being raped by its own cousin company fedex Ground and Home Delivery who are independent contractors. You shovel more and more of you business through this zero labor cost business plan, and yes your "profits" go up.
Just wait, oh man just wait until all those class action lawsuits are awarded to the independent contractors and then the proverbial snowball starts rolling. Fred:*******: is either going to have to pay these ICs big money or accept them as "employees" thus taking on huge labor costs as well as benefits, vehicular maintenance, and on and on that he currently has the IC pay for. I don't think he has that kind of cash laying around like UPS does. One day his business model will implode on him and the stock prices and dividends will be in the pennies, his earnings in single digit numbers.  | you can apply that same argument to the ups store owners. |
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10-24-2006, 04:21 AM
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#17 | | Anonymous | Re: fedex earnings up 40% And what about UPS quarter report? Did you even reach double digits? Bad Management, Supply Chain prob and now news your freight div can't merge smoothly with other divisions. Also you guys just announced layoffs...
Like Jim Cramer said today...UPS..big company...slow growth....FEDEX....smaller company...growth and profits.....Sell UPS..Buy FEDEX.....I could'nt agree more! | |
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10-26-2006, 02:42 PM
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#18 | | monte carlo 11 and 12
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWN OBSERVER And what about UPS quarter report? Did you even reach double digits? Bad Management, Supply Chain prob and now news your freight div can't merge smoothly with other divisions. Also you guys just announced layoffs...
Like Jim Cramer said today...UPS..big company...slow growth....FEDEX....smaller company...growth and profits.....Sell UPS..Buy FEDEX.....I could'nt agree more! | BROWN OBSERVER, You hit it on the head! I also read in there last earnings report that there new Freight division also lost customers and money which hurt there earnings
UPS is hurting, FEDEX owns the market share in the Domestic and Int'l express markets. FEDEX also owns the market share in regional and national LTL freight. The last thing to go after is "UPS's bread and butter "GROUND". Customers are already seeing that in many U.S markets Fedex can shave off at least 1 day in ground shipping compared to there 100 year old big brother. |
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10-26-2006, 09:51 PM
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Rep Power: 1252 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Jim Cramer what a media prostitute. Who cares about this tired arguement. All I know my package car is always full.
If package volume is hemorrhaging as many are saying, my same arguement applies...Why when i'm at a stop, I'm consitantly delivering 4 to 5 times as many as f ground and f express does. Why in the a.m. is my package care crammed full after 2 stops, when f ground's truck has an echo after his 2nd stop.
Trying to convince one another which company is better is like telling an atheist there is a God.
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10-27-2006, 12:06 AM
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#20 | | BRAVE NEW WORLD
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Rep Power: 3199 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Rush, Same ol' song and dance. The same fedex guy is on here posting over and over again. F. U. Monte. Damn, everybody else sees fedex trucks empty in the morning and seeing ups drivers "trying" to open the bulkhead door while the load on the bricked out car has shifted. Or opening up the back door and having the load fall out the back because the truck is so damn full. Most routes dont have the luxury of being able to walk through a truck with half full shelfs and every pkgs lined up perfectly. Our shelfs are cramed full of **** and its falling out of the truck. Im glad that fedex can have nice lined up loads and have small light letters. And two hour lunches. I wish I could have those kinds of loads also. Welcome to our reality at ups. So dont tell me about percentages because when your dealing with the volume amounts of both companies its not even close. **** man, we cant even get everything in the truck...what the hell does that tell you. And were dealing with route density that is much tighter than fedex....especially fedex ground. I have a country route and my truck is still bulked out most of the week. |
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10-27-2006, 07:30 AM
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#21 | | monte carlo 11 and 12
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Coldworld,
Easy big guy! Express trucks are out delivering pkgs at least 1 hour before you even get to your truck in the AM. Fedex Ground drivers start even earlier. There is no doubt that UPS handles many more "ground packages" than Fedex Ground. If It makes you feel better, Fedex Corp made a statement that there Ground divisions volume will more than double by the end of 2008. Still a drop in the bucket compared to UPS, but at least there working on giving you some room in your package car. |
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10-27-2006, 08:14 AM
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#22 | | adirondack man
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Rep Power: 100 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWN OBSERVER I get a kick out of how these ups people can't admit FDX is kicking their butt. We are on a roll, and this is just the beginniing. I hope you guys don't have another disasterous quarter, don't know how your company can afford you high priced drivers. Thats going to change though...in the years to come the Union is going to ask for concessions for you guys to stay competitive. Thats when the fireworks will begin. | UPS paid more for OVERNITE than fedx makes in a year.Now thats when you can tell the big dogs from the pups |
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10-27-2006, 10:35 AM
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#23 | | monte carlo 11 and 12
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Quote:
Originally Posted by any122 UPS paid more for OVERNITE than fedx makes in a year.Now thats when you can tell the big dogs from the pups  | ERRRRRRR yea Any122. Irony, do you want to take this one. He or she must be UPS mgmt. |
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10-28-2006, 10:58 AM
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#24 | | BRAVE NEW WORLD
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Rep Power: 3199 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% Thats a good one. Thats not going to happen when our ground volume is up almost a million a day. Where is this comming from...its not all from the usps?!?!?!?!? |
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10-28-2006, 11:15 AM
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#25 | | BRAVE NEW WORLD
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Rep Power: 3199 | Re: fedex earnings up 40% before fedex, RPS volume was about 1 million a day. Today, Fedex ground volume is 2 million a day....respectible, yes, but nothing close to ups. How long has fedex owned RPS, 7or 8 years. It took that long to go up 1 million pkgs. And fedex is saying the volume is going to double in less that a year and a half. ..unlikely. Im not sure what dhl ground volumes are now. They bought airborne what, 2 years ago. I dont think their volume has gone up that much. Not sure what airborne was delivering per day maybe you can look that up. It comes down to one thing. Ups is gaining faster into your air volume than fedex is gaining into ups ground volume. Ups (and maybe fedex...not sure) are gaining into the post office volume. I see it daily as the "basic service" Not really sure about dhl, there doesnt seem to be much on them. I know they lost 700-800 million in groung a few months ago. What does that tell you. I dont have fedex ground on my route..its the home guy. He is a spaz...he makes your company look like ****. Maybe once fedex ground becomes union some of the ups guys will jump ship and start delivering for the purple haze. Good money less packages...sounds good. Maybe we might be coworkers. I would take a pay cut to be able to worlk an 8 hour day with union benefits. peace |
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