Hello guys i'm new to the site and just had my tour

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Originally Posted by Moana Drifter

Had my first day this morning. I can tell I'll be a bit sore tomorrow, but other than that no worse for wear. Out of 4 new hires, I was the only one to show on time, one was 20 minutes late, and two were no-shows.

HR totally freaked out my wife. They got one of the two no-shows mixed up with me and called my home and left a message on the answering machine asking why I didn't show for work. My wife knew I left for work at 2:30, couldn't reach me on my cell (not allowed in the building) and starts imagining me in a ditch or wrapped around a telephone pole. Of course, I'm oblivious to all this until I get back into my truck at 8:30 and get my cell out of the glove box.

Please don't let this pass without speaking to someone from HR and asking that whomever called your wife call her back and apologize for scaring the poop out of her and then ask them to check twice before placing phone calls of this nature.

[wyobill1956]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

Painkillers; check.

Xanex; check.

Coffee; check.

Beer; check.

sweat rag; check.

Back brace; check.

"Jesus Saves" Pin or T-shirt; check.

"Christmas is glorious aside from , you know, peak..." check.

hotjobs.com; check.

That would be
Beer-- Double ckeck

[jesus_saves]

Well yesterday I did 273 an hour. I talked to my sup about when the benefits go into effect cause I know they are letting everyone go at the end of dec and he told me if they let him have his way I will not get cut in dec. So I hope all goes right cause everyone are trippin about how fast I work as a new guy and on the hardest truck in our section.

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by jesus_saves

Well yesterday I did 273 an hour. I talked to my sup about when the benefits go into effect cause I know they are letting everyone go at the end of dec and he told me if they let him have his way I will not get cut in dec. So I hope all goes right cause everyone are trippin about how fast I work as a new guy and on the hardest truck in our section.

Good luck. The tortiose wins the race at UPS, not the suck-up worker in a hurry. You won't get anywhere "trippin" people, believe me.

[chev]

Originally Posted by jesus_saves

Well yesterday I did 273 an hour. I talked to my sup about when the benefits go into effect cause I know they are letting everyone go at the end of dec and he told me if they let him have his way I will not get cut in dec. So I hope all goes right cause everyone are trippin about how fast I work as a new guy and on the hardest truck in our section.

Actually if you are a hard worker and show up every day on time, you will stand out above the rest. This is how you get hired after peak. Hopefully you will get lucky, but with the way the economy is right now and the layoffs that are sure to come, you will be lucky to get it.

[jesus_saves]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

Good luck. The tortiose wins the race at UPS, not the suck-up worker in a hurry. You won't get anywhere "trippin" people, believe me.

sorry when I said trippin I wanted to say amazed by how fast I was working but i'm work hard every I had so far i'm only 26 and with a wife and kids I have to do my thing.

[But Benefits Are Great!]

Took me a while to learn this - I should have listened to the people on this board telling me so - but those who work the fastest can count on one reward, and one only;

More work coupled with unreasonable expectations.

There are no "attaboys" at UPS, there is no reward for doing better than anyone else. You do more work than anyone else? You won't get a thank you or recognition, you will get grief when you don't keep that peak performance.

There is a reason why your fellow sorters / unloaders work at a slower pace than you, and it is not laziness, and not because they are tired or don't care; they have learned that there is simply no good reason to.


Here is the most clear expectation/similarity I can come up with; Picture the old Roman Ships, with rows & rows of men in the bowels of the ship, pulling on the oars, hearing "ROW, ROW, ROW" over & over again. These men had no control over where the ship was going, had no say in how the ship was run, and would be happy if, by the end of the day, they survived & were not whipped. Only UPS is worse than that, because you also have to listen to morning meetings talking about power zones and how to use your feet until you want to kill someone.



You will learn that UPS is not what you were expecting. You will learn that the only time you will hear from your SUPs is when you screw up. And, my most recent revelation, you know you have had a great day when you are simply left alone to do your job.

Sorry - feeling just a tad negative on UPS this week.

[sortaisle]

Saves, I completely understand that you have to do your thing. If it's just in your nature to hustle and you don't feel right otherwise, then by all means, hustle. I know you do all things to the glory of God and that's more than alright, just understand that seniority rules at UPS. If you signed into the union, then you have to abide by the laws that govern. Sucks, I know. Have some patience and eventually, it will pay off for you with great benefits. If you can afford to wait it out.

[jesus_saves]

Thanks for the information guys and yes I do give god the glory but I won't lie to anyone i'm not angel and I make the same mistakes over and over daily even tho I know god doesn't approve of them. I am only human but back to ups Yes I understand about working fast but I was mostly going by the new people who started before me. It would be perfect if they keep me on instead of dropping me on the 31 of dec. Meaning I would have to start my time again. But the sooner the better I can have my foot in the door and move up to driver (I hope) btw what all test etc. does the drivers go through? Everyone been telling me that everyone fails their first time.

[sano]

Originally Posted by But Benefits Are Great!

There are no "attaboys" at UPS, there is no reward for doing better than anyone else. You do more work than anyone else? You won't get a thank you or recognition, you will get grief when you don't keep that peak performance.

I have only been here for a few months, but my experience is different than yours.
I think it really varies depending on your supervisors. When I do a good job I have received compliments and a thank you.
There are managers that look at their people as just another piece of equipment, but there are also good managers that realise that people work better when treated with basic respect.
I am not disagreeing with your viewpoint, just saying it is not that way everywhere in the company.

[jesus_saves]

Originally Posted by sano

I have only been here for a few months, but my experience is different than yours.
I think it really varies depending on your supervisors. When I do a good job I have received compliments and a thank you.
There are managers that look at their people as just another piece of equipment, but there are also good managers that realise that people work better when treated with basic respect.
I am not disagreeing with your viewpoint, just saying it is not that way everywhere in the company.

yea likewise man even the fulltime supervisor came in my truck and was talking to me about how good I been doing and if everything was okay

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by jesus_saves

yea likewise man even the fulltime supervisor came in my truck and was talking to me about how good I been doing and if everything was okay

That does not mean that it is for the right reasons. UPS has absolutely no care in the world about how long you last, as long as you keep pushing yourself to the maximum and risking injury to yourself.

[But Benefits Are Great!]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

That does not mean that it is for the right reasons. UPS has absolutely no care in the world about how long you last, as long as you keep pushing yourself to the maximum and risking injury to yourself.

Dead on.

[Moana Drifter]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

Good luck. The tortiose wins the race at UPS, not the suck-up worker in a hurry. You won't get anywhere "trippin" people, believe me.

Actually, since he's a seasonal temp hoping for a callback in January, this may be the one and only time that his job performance actually has any bearing on his career.

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by Moana Drifter

Actually, since he's a seasonal temp hoping for a callback in January, this may be the one and only time that his job performance actually has any bearing on his career.

Very good point. I had lost sight of that, if it was mentioned in this thread.

We have a couple guys hired last month that are not seasonal temps, and some few last month that are. I'm not really sure where the line is drawn up this way. I wonder if UPS is hiring people perm and then pulling a switcharoo on them come layoff time. Wouldn' tbe the first time UPS "soda" ( say onething do another) is bubblin' up !

[sortaisle]

As I understood it, UPS doesn't hire seasonals for inside the building anymore, only for driver helpers. His performance won't matter much.

As to driver training saves, it's not true that everyone flunks out. Everyone you've talked to flunked out. It's not an impossible class. It's a hard class, but entirely passable. Before you get to go to driver school, they take you for a road test to see if you know how to drive a stick and if you follow traffic laws. Then it's a week of CBT's (computer based training) with some driving and delivery techniques thrown in. There's a couple thousand acronyms to learn (seriously, it seems that way). Don't sweat it brother, it's a long way off. See if you can get on Saturday air. And when your their, the best thing to learn is your start and stop routine. Everything is one slow fluid move, know exactly how many packages your getting knowing where they are. The one that'll help you the most is start up. On your way back to the truck, know what your next stop is, get up the steps put down your DIAD, get your key in the ignition and slapping your seat belt on all in the space of a few seconds. UPS wants you to have this down to 7 seconds. If your good, you can do it in probably 3. It seriously saves you time.

[Moana Drifter]

Originally Posted by sortaisle

As I understood it, UPS doesn't hire seasonals for inside the building anymore, only for driver helpers. His performance won't matter much.

I was hired last week as a seasonal inside. HR was very clear that I would be let go at Christmas, and that if I get called back, the days while a seasonal would not count towards seniority.

[jesus_saves]

lastnight one of the hub managers came over to the truck i was loading and introduced himself to me. He told me that I was doing a pretty good job and I was one of the best new hires of this year and if I was planning on coming back in Jan. I replied yes and he said well we will start you back on jan 1 and that is when you will hit seniority. He also ask me how i'm liking the job I replied i'm loving it he said for real? even with the pay low pay for the hardwork. I said yes i'm looking towards the future so its no problem with me. Then he explained a long story to me about how he started then he said keep up the good work and left. So I think if I keep doing what i'm doing I should be okay guys. I just hope I don't get layed off next year cause I have alot riding on this job

[sortaisle]

Houston could be a recession proof area with little or no layoffs then. It would make sense for UPS to keep a seasonal hire rather than hire off the street again. Most low seniority employees do get laid off January, but if your in a large building with lots of senior employees with optional days and sick days to blow in January, then you may not get laid off. Congrats though, it sounds like your hard work is actually going to pay off! It's an uncommon event at UPS.

[jesus_saves]

The canino hub is real big and alot of people in on my belt ever show up so I might be okay. Last night 3 people didn't show up no calls. and thats just about everyday but like I said the other day the truck that i'm on is busy everynight no one wants to do it and the dude got fired who was doing it so i might be okay

[ladmeih]

hard work not rewarded? it depends. if you're overworking yourself you will get more work.

I'm an unloader. I worked my ass off when I first started but my reason was to get on an extendo. Took 3 weeks and I haven't been off of one since. I've tried other jobs including sorting, I like unloading though so that's where I stay.

There's only 2 real reasons to start working at UPS and neither of them are money unless you're really desperate.

Management and the Supes will blow smoke up your ass though. I started during peak like you, they told me I could stay after peak if I wanted to even though I never originally intended to. They also said they'd only keep one person and it would be me, they hired 4 other people too. Take what they tell you with a grain of salt.

Peak doesn't count towards seniority, also ask for more money if they want to keep you that badly.

[jesus_saves]

lol i'm not going to ask for more money but the my sup is real cool and yes I take his word cause other people on my belt come up to me and say how much he brags about me. So i think i'm str8

[UpstateNYUPSer]

[quote=ladmeih;436294]...There's only 2 real reasons to start working at UPS and neither of them are money unless you're really desperate.[quote]

Care to explain?

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

[quote=UpstateNYUPSer;437210][quote=ladmeih;436294]...There's only 2 real reasons to start working at UPS and neither of them are money unless you're really desperate.

Care to explain?

A workout, and of course the benefits are great! ;/

[UpstateNYUPSer]

[quote=Sleeve_meet_Heart;437214][quote=UpstateNYUPSer;437210]

Originally Posted by ladmeih

...There's only 2 real reasons to start working at UPS and neither of them are money unless you're really desperate.

A workout, and of course the benefits are great! ;/

Here is my list in order of preference:

Money

Benefits

Work out