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makaveli_714 · 06-29-2009, 01:16 PM

been was working for ups for 2 years and well i got fired because my supervisor make me do more work after i was done with my stuff and i refused... keep in mine i was done and over tired ....this supervisor was always harassing me tell me to go faster...iwas told that HR can still fight for my job? is this true?

UpstateNYUPSer · 06-29-2009, 02:09 PM

Unless the HR you are referring to is HR Puffenstuff I am afraid you are out of luck. If you do find a job that will allow you to stop when your work is done, to be able to refuse additional work and continue to get paid, let me know, as I would like to apply. (Hint--these type of jobs don't exist.)

Do yourself a favor--google "work ethic".

BrOwN_PrIdE · 06-29-2009, 02:33 PM

you can't tell your supervisor that you don't want to do additional work. I got into trouble for that one time.
You probably can fight it. One guy was fired for punching a box and then was rehired.

pickup · 06-29-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Unless the HR you are referring to is HR Puffenstuff I am afraid you are out of luck. If you do find a job that will allow you to stop when your work is done, to be able to refuse additional work and continue to get paid, let me know, as I would like to apply. (Hint--these type of jobs don't exist.)

Do yourself a favor--google "work ethic".

HR Puffenstuff, he's your friend when things get rough.

UpstateNYUPSer · 06-29-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by makaveli_714

been was working for ups for 2 years and well i got fired because my supervisor make me do more work after i was done with my stuff and i refused... keep in mine i was done and over tired ....this supervisor was always harassing me tell me to go faster...iwas told that HR can still fight for my job? is this true?

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Originally Posted by BrOwN_PrIdE

you can't tell your supervisor that you don't want to do additional work. I got into trouble for that one time.
You probably can fight it. One guy was fired for punching a box and then was rehired.

This is our future--thank God I only have 10 years left.

stevetheupsguy · 06-29-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Unless the HR you are referring to is HR Puffenstuff I am afraid you are out of luck. If you do find a job that will allow you to stop when your work is done, to be able to refuse additional work and continue to get paid, let me know, as I would like to apply. (Hint--these type of jobs don't exist.)

Do yourself a favor--google "work ethic".

That was freaking hilarious, Upstate. I'm glad I didn't have a drink or a runny nose.

ups1990 · 06-29-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by makaveli_714

been was working for ups for 2 years and well i got fired because my supervisor make me do more work after i was done with my stuff and i refused... keep in mine i was done and over tired ....this supervisor was always harassing me tell me to go faster...iwas told that HR can still fight for my job? is this true?

At UPS, one always works as directed, although you might not agree with it at that particular moment. You can file a grievence later to try and resove the problem. Never, ever refuse to work as directed.

Every driver is overworked and "overtired." By the way, I love this word. I'll probably use more often, that's if I don't "misremember"

My guess is your out of a job. Chalk it up to youth and inexperience. Let it be a lesson for you, as well as the members of this forum.

makaveli_714 · 06-29-2009, 09:43 PM

oh i c thanx guys ..oh one more thing how can i get my sick day money ??? and the union money?

drewed · 06-30-2009, 12:19 AM

if you get fired you forfeit sick time, and what union money? your intiation fee? thats gone too

UpstateNYUPSer · 06-30-2009, 04:03 AM

Most life lessons turn out to be expensive ones.

bubsdad · 06-30-2009, 05:04 AM

The answers you received on here are probably correct but at least talk to a steward or your BA to see if there is any chance of saving your job. You still have to have a hearing and if you were at least somewhat good at what you were doing there might be a chance. If you do get your job back, do what you're told when you're told and if you think it is wrong then talk to a steward. Unless, of course, it is unsafe.

makaveli_714 · 07-01-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by drewed

if you get fired you forfeit sick time, and what union money? your intiation fee? thats gone too

i just got a check and it from my sick days and vacations money

drewed · 07-01-2009, 05:49 PM

I can see vacation time, I dont think youd get cashed out sick time

tenfiveum · 07-01-2009, 08:05 PM

Get a shop stewward and file a grievience with your union. They are out of there limits to fire you for that. You worked hard that day and was exxausted. Its not safe to work under that condition.

UpstateNYUPSer · 07-02-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tenfiveum

Get a shop stewward and file a grievience with your union. They are out of there limits to fire you for that. You worked hard that day and was exxausted. Its not safe to work under that condition.

Just curious, what article would you cite?

Article 9999 I Was Tired and My Boss Is a Meanie

ups1990 · 07-02-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Just curious, what article would you cite?

Article 9999 I Was Tired and My Boss Is a Meanie

Upstate. I believe, what He's refering to are the Articles of Confederation. Under the "exxausted" clause.

makaveli_714 · 07-02-2009, 09:38 AM

yea because i was done with my trucks and it was time for me to go ....

cwmaxxout · 07-02-2009, 09:53 AM

Try reading Art. 7 in the contract call you shop steward ASAP

UpstateNYUPSer · 07-02-2009, 01:10 PM

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yea because i was done with my trucks and it was time for me to go ....

...hit the road, Jack, and doncha come back no more, no more, no more, no more, hit the road, Jack, and doncha come back no more.

Buh-bye.

makaveli_714 · 07-03-2009, 03:27 AM

<_<

roaddog · 07-04-2009, 12:42 PM

Absolutely If you were to tired it is a sfety issue,I have been fired 3 times in 22 years and the only thing UPS can make a firing stick for is if you steal or sexually harass someone! Get involved with your union and call your business agent ASAP,get your safety Co-Chair involved and stay strong!

705red · 07-04-2009, 01:51 PM

OP you need to file a grievance and allow the union to see if you were properly fired. If you had explained that you were fatigued and working further could have been dangerous you would have a great case.

Some people like to comment on things that they have no idea about. Believe it or not everyone here is not a contract expert. File your grievance and please let us know how it turns out for you.

Baba gounj · 07-05-2009, 11:59 AM

and if the firing sticks , then contact the union for a withdrawl card.
What this does is should you ever get another union job, you won't have to pay intiation fee again.

BrOwN_PrIdE · 08-05-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

...hit the road, Jack, and doncha come back no more, no more, no more, no more, hit the road, Jack, and doncha come back no more.

Buh-bye.

Hey UpstateNYUPSer, your a ***. You need to find something better to do with your time then to sit at the computer and make *** comments like that.

UpstateNYUPSer · 08-05-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BrOwN_PrIdE

Hey UpstateNYUPSer, your a ***. You need to find something better to do with your time then to sit at the computer and make *** comments like that.

I may very well be but I am so tired of Generation Me. Kids today have absolutely no work ethic. They want to start at the top and make top dollar without paying their dues along the way.

BTW, you're welcome.