Who Is The Greatest Guitar Player

[DS]

wkmac,that "stick" is one amazing instrument.
I tried those Richie Blackmore links and they were dead,but managed to find some audio from other sites.I'm surprised at the direction he's taken,he was always the "difficult" one when he was in deep purple.
I went to see king crimson at a small venue in '73 and they were amazing(larks tongues in aspic)
Music is the only thing that man has ever invented that will last forever.

[moreluck]

"Music is the only thing that man has ever invented that will last forever."

That, and Twinkies !!

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by DS

wkmac,that "stick" is one amazing instrument.
I tried those Richie Blackmore links and they were dead,but managed to find some audio from other sites.I'm surprised at the direction he's taken,he was always the "difficult" one when he was in deep purple.
I went to see king crimson at a small venue in '73 and they were amazing(larks tongues in aspic)
Music is the only thing that man has ever invented that will last forever.

Sorry the links didn't work but you got the idea.

I saw the same KC tour in 73' myself and Robin Trower was also on the same bill. What a kick as tour! As to KC, with Fripp reforming the band, I'm making plans to catch this show if I can.

I miss those small venue shows back in the day and here are my favorite of all of them from that era.

1972' Black Sabbath
1972' Uriah Heep
1972' Pink Floyd (before DSOTM)
!973' KC and Trower
1974' Genesis Selling England By The Pound
1975' Genesis Lamb tour (HUGE fan of Gabriel era Genesis and still am)
1975' to 1976' Rang in the New Year at an Atlanta bar with Kansas

[scratch]

Originally Posted by wkmac

1975' to 1976' Rang in the New Year at an Atlanta bar with Kansas

Hey wkmac,
Funny that you would mention Kansas. I deliver to Phil Ehart's house, he lives on a large private lake on the Southside. He is the drummer and considered the band leader. Nice guy, he comes to the door and says "Yes Sir" to me and he takes care of his mom in an apartment connected to his house. He gets a lot of cases of Vater drumsticks, they are branded with his name because he tosses them out into the crowd at the end of their concerts.(I have a pair). He also goes through a few Zildjian cymbols on his Yamaha drumset.
www.kansasband.com

[DS]

This thread has blossomed from its original theme to that of the greatest bands us old farts like....but I'm good with that.I saw sabbath in '72 as well.I also liked uriah heep...still do for that matter,I just burned a copy of the "look at yourself" cd for the car.I'll never forget the look on my dads face when I showed him the cover of "love it to death" by alice cooper... ha ha...or when I played him some "yes" and he said,why does he have to sing like a girl? I was at a few christmas get-togethers this year and I brought my guitar.We had fun playing wish you were here and stuff.My friend was showing me his 10,000 song ipod,and it turned out we could play the first 3 chords of 10,000 songs when we tried to play them...I guess that my resolution is to play my guitar more this year.I've been working on that thin lizzy tune,the boys are back in town...F#Msus4?...ok it cant be that hard...I will figure it out....

[copyrightacolor]

Ok, from a British perspective?:

Jazz / Fusion:- Torcuato Mariano, Chuck Loeb
Rock:- Steve Lukather, Michael Landau
Rock Blues:- Eric Johnson, Jan Cyrka
Steel Acoustic:-Mile Gilderdale,
Nylon Acoustic:- Earl Klugh, Peter White, Marc Antoine
Bass:- Nathan East, Marcus Miller, Walt Becker, Scott Thunes
Country(?): Chet Atkins, Duane Eddy
Stunt Guitar:-Warren Cucarulo, Steve Vai

but hey, who am I to judge?

[wkmac]

Chuck Loeb! Got to see him live a couple of years back along with Jeff Kashiwa and man what an evening. And to make it even better, it was outside at an ampitheater not 15 minutes from the house in nearby Woodstock. Woodstock Georgia that is and the best part was when Chuck talked about always wanting to play Woodstock and then broke into an awesome Star Spangle Banner with distortion and feedback to boot which is not common in jazz circles. The crowd went wild and Chuck had fun doing it.

Chuck has also done some great production work having produced for guys like Jeff Kashiwa and Kim Waters but also Spyro Gyra and the great Gato Barbieri.

Another Brit guitarist of fame is none other than Ritchie Blackmore and the reason I mention Ritchie is because of his latest work over the last 10 years. He's been influence by Renaissance period music and his project Blackmore's Night combine Renaissance/European Folk along with rock for a glorious sound. We picked up their DVD of a recent Paris show and it was killer. Among the many original pieces, they did a cover of Joan Baez' Diamonds and Rust that was just breath taking IMO. Ritchie not only can still play a classical guitar piece but now he even plays period instruments including the hurdy gerty.

link to Blackmore's Night website:

http://www.blackmoresnight.com/index2.htm

check out some of the music files.

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by DS

This thread has blossomed from its original theme to that of the greatest bands us old farts like....but I'm good with that.I saw sabbath in '72 as well.I also liked uriah heep...still do for that matter,I just burned a copy of the "look at yourself" cd for the car.I'll never forget the look on my dads face when I showed him the cover of "love it to death" by alice cooper... ha ha...or when I played him some "yes" and he said,why does he have to sing like a girl? I was at a few christmas get-togethers this year and I brought my guitar.We had fun playing wish you were here and stuff.My friend was showing me his 10,000 song ipod,and it turned out we could play the first 3 chords of 10,000 songs when we tried to play them...I guess that my resolution is to play my guitar more this year.I've been working on that thin lizzy tune,the boys are back in town...F#Msus4?...ok it cant be that hard...I will figure it out....

I loved Sabbath and the whole metal scene in the early days but by the late 70's I was more into jazz and electronica. I do like what some of the young kids today are doing with metal and the heavier sounds with down tuning and even 7 string guitars.

However, I was and am still a big fan of Yes. My alltime favorite album of theirs is still Close to the Edge with Tails of Topographic Oceans and Relayer right up there. Saw them live in 73', 74' and 76'. Giving thought of going to see them this summer. No Wakeman however!

F#Msus4 = F Sharpe minor Sus 4. I can't play it but I can read it! LOL! I've got 4 guitarists in the house and between them we have 12 guitars in the house including a 100 watt Marshall stack of course so I've been around the block a few times with them.

[DS]

wkmac...that encarta link has a virus in it...
anyways,that blackmore stuff is too weird for me.
its great to find a fellow music lover in here though.
I had a 100 watt marshall stack w 2 4x12 cabinets when i was a bass player years ago,now I just tinker on my 15 year old martin shenandoah.If I could make a living playing music I'd do it in a heartbeat.I had an offer to play with a band on weekends but with ups,I'd have no time to sleep.
"nous somes du soliel"one of my fav's
we are of the sun,we love when we play

[FromBluetoBrown]

C.C DeMille from Poison
and Bradley Nowell from Sublime

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by DS

wkmac...that encarta link has a virus in it...
anyways,that blackmore stuff is too weird for me.
its great to find a fellow music lover in here though.
I had a 100 watt marshall stack w 2 4x12 cabinets when i was a bass player years ago,now I just tinker on my 15 year old martin shenandoah.If I could make a living playing music I'd do it in a heartbeat.I had an offer to play with a band on weekends but with ups,I'd have no time to sleep.
"nous somes du soliel"one of my fav's
we are of the sun,we love when we play

Thanks for the heads up on the link. I removed it.

You calling Blackmore's stuff weird is funny when you consider you went to a King Crimson concert!
Still to this day I play In the Court of the Crimson King, Poseidon and Lark's Tonque in Aspic from time to time.

BTW: Crimson is reforming and I know Tony Levin (bass and Stik player) will be with him along with Gavin Harrison, drummer for a fav. band of mine in Porcupine Tree. Fripp has not only toured with PT but also played some guitar on their recent Fear of a Blank Planet album, so there is a connection. Alex Lifeson of Rush also appeared on same CD.

Did you know that Microsoft commissioned Robert Fripp for many soundscapes and sound files for their latest software including Vista? http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=151853
Who would have thunk it back in the day that you'd hear Pink Floyd on the Weather Channel and in elevators and Robert Fripp of King Crimson on you computer! You ever get the chance, go out to youtube and watch some of Fripps videos using Frippertronics. I know it's not typical music but the sound scapes he can create with just a guitar is truly amazing to me.

Love music and enjoy talking about it too. Anytime!

[Cezanne]

Listen to Robin Trower's "Bridge of Sighs" and Lou Reed's live album "Rock and Roll Animal". Reed used two detroit studio guitarists who nailed it, believing thier names were Hunter or Wagner. Really dating myself consider both these albums were released in "73".

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by Cezanne

Listen to Robin Trower's "Bridge of Sighs" and Lou Reed's live album "Rock and Roll Animal". Reed used two detroit studio guitarists who nailed it, believing thier names were Hunter or Wagner. Really dating myself consider both these albums were released in "73".

Speaking of Bridge of Sighs, Swedish Progressive Death/Black Metal band Opeth is doing a cover of this iconic piece on their forthcoming album Watershed. Of late I've noticed lots of various metal subgenre bands doing covers from Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild, to Genesis Land of Confusion which I thought Disturbed heavier guitar ladened cover was actually better than the original by Phil, Tony and Mike. Now I heard the other day a cover of the Doors LA Woman.

If you like old Black Sabbath, I'm talking the title track Black Sabbath, Children of the Grave and Hand of Doom, go to youtube and type in Black Sabbath Fantasia Synch and watch Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3. Some took these 3 songs and synched them up with the video of Hall of the Mountain King from Disney's Fantasia. It's fun to watch and amazing how some aspects of it match up.

yes, Eddie Van Halen started MANY things, like the hammer on's.

Well not quite. A hammer on is called legato with stringed instruments and was used by violinists before it was popular among shred guitarists. Eddie also seems to get credit for tapping in rock music but in fact Steve Hackett of early Genesis can be heard on such albums as Foxtrot (1972') and IMO their best of all, Selling England By the Pound (1973')using the tapping technique. Hackett as well used legato in it's hammer on and pull off forms. Legato meaning slurred can be heard quite often in music where the obvious picking or sliding sound is missing. Eddie did however exploit and popularized tapping to the larger guitar world and as such he does stand alone as a major influence.

The following video clip is of the band Genesis from a Belgium TV appearance just after the release of their 1971' album Nursery Crimes performing the song Musical Box. At about the 4 minute mark, Steve breaks into a guitar solo and watch his hands on the neck. You'll see hammer ons, pull offs and some tapping. Obviously not a flashy and flamboyant as Eddie but clearly several years before young Edward hit the scene. And no Hackett didn't invent it either as it's been around for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35:c...censored:cByIY

And yes, that was Phil Collins with hair on the drumkit and a young Peter Gabriel behind the mikestand. I was and still am a huge fan of that era music so if you wanna know what I was listening to in 1971' there you go!


And for those who were big fans of the 80's and 90's Pop music version of Genesis, as Walter Cronkitt would say, "and that's the way it was!" back in the day.

[wkmac]

OH COME ON BROWNCAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The reason the Genesis You Tube link doesn't work is because in the original link it contained the following 3 letters in order

W
T
F
and therefore we must be engaged in dirty talk.

Turns out someone else posted the same video with out the offending letters in the link so here you go!

YouTube - Genesis - The Musical Box ('72)

[DS]

holy double barrel purple acid wkmac!
that was like going back in time.
Here in Toronto in 1969-70,there was a band we worshiped called nucleus.We recently got together and re-did 2 of the songs.I didn't even realize they had a website,but apparently
they do! The songs are all there to hear,but they suggest you buy them from i-tunes if you like 'em.

http://nuke.afootincoldwater.com

[FAVREFAN]

Eric Johnson, David Gilmour and Alex Lifeson.

[The-UK-Guy]

Clapton of course and I always thought Brian May from Queen was pretty good also. In Guitar Hero 3 though Slash Rocks and Morrilo

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

Clapton of course and I always thought Brian May from Queen was pretty good also. In Guitar Hero 3 though Slash Rocks and Morrilo

Excuse me, that's "DR." Brian May as he just earned his Phd in astrophysics.

Every heard Slash do Flamigo guitar?

http://www.last.fm/music/Slash/_/Obsession+Confession

Top of the page is and audio player with the full song. He was commissioned to write and record this song for a 1996' movie. The guy is talented and writes some great monthly columes in one of the guitar magazines.

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by DS

holy double barrel purple acid wkmac!
that was like going back in time.
Here in Toronto in 1969-70,there was a band we worshiped called nucleus.We recently got together and re-did 2 of the songs.I didn't even realize they had a website,but apparently
they do! The songs are all there to hear,but they suggest you buy them from i-tunes if you like 'em.

http://nuke.afootincoldwater.com

Purple Acid! I was more an orange sunshine man myself!


I watched a program the other day about Syd Barrett, original guitarist/song writer for Pink Floyd and how acid/LSD destroyed him. Well known in the Floyd world. A lot of Syd is written into Darkside of the Moon, Wish you Were Here especially and the character of Pink from the Wall is based on Syd. Roger Waters said the lyric line "black holes in the sky" were taken from Syd's appearance of his eyes after the ravages of acid and LSD and taken their toll.

Yeah that era of Genesis was my fav. and I was able to see them live in 73' and again in 75' just before Peter left. Saw them once more before Hackett left and after that the band went in a more commericial/pop direction that just didn't hold my interest. I found out about Genesis thanks to a Jethro Tull Soundman in 1971' who was wearing a Genesis T-Shirt and when I asked about the religious statement, he filled me in and even pulled up a song called the Knife from their Trespass album and played it over the house PA. It has this real heavy plusing, almost metalish rythem to it but contains a soft melodic feel as well. I was hooked from the get go. Lyrics are political/social in nature as the song is about revolution and how generally revolution ends in tyranny and despotism thus the name, "The Knife!"

You should check these guys out being you live in Toronto.
http://www.themusicalbox.net/
They play the Danforth Music Hall on 6/6/08 and 6/7/08.

They are based out of Toronto and I saw their Selling England By the Pound show 5 or 6 years ago and having seen the original, I can say it was spot on! My wife and I started dating about the time Peter left the band in 75' so she never got to see them with me but I told her after that night that IMO she can say she saw Genesis. Those guys were that good and the real Genesis gave the band their old costumes, stage backdrops and they even use the old instrumentation including the bulky, cantakerous mellotron which I happen to just love to no end but thank God for computer software now. LOL.

Check em out if for a couple of hours you wanna go "back in the day" and see an advant garde band who incorporated symphonic rock with mime, theater and a bit of opera! Genesis used the visual along with the music to tell the story of the music and this was what set them apart from other bands in the day IMO.