Vacation in December?

packagestud · 08-21-2007, 06:41 PM

After 30 years, I'm planning to retire Nov. 30. I have 8 vacation weeks available and planned to use them during Dec. and Jan. to complete my 30 years of safe driving. It was approved by CM and DM; however, the RM denied the plan. At least three drivers in this state received permission to retire and use vacation in Dec.

I'm now in the process of filing a grievance with the Union, who consider this total **. To help bolster my case, I would like to hear from anyone who has had a similar experience. Thanks for your help.

Cementups · 08-21-2007, 06:48 PM

I've only ever heard of guys using their last 6-8 weeks before November started. So they were pretty much done at the end of August with Sept. and Oct. off so that they didn't affect peak.

rod · 08-21-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by packagestud

After 30 years, I'm planning to retire Nov. 30. I have 8 vacation weeks available and planned to use them during Dec. and Jan. to complete my 30 years of safe driving. It was approved by CM and DM; however, the RM denied the plan. At least three drivers in this state received permission to retire and use vacation in Dec.

I'm now in the process of filing a grievance with the Union, who consider this total **. To help bolster my case, I would like to hear from anyone who has had a similar experience. Thanks for your help.

They just NEVER give up do they? Screw with ya to the last day. My CM told me on my final day that he didn't want me dragging my feet and bullsh-ting with my customers all day long. I've always wondered how people like this can be turned into such a miserable example of a human being.

Just Lurking · 08-21-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rod

They just NEVER give up do they? Screw with ya to the last day. My CM told me on my final day that he didn't want me dragging my feet and bullsh-ting with my customers all day long. I've always wondered how people like this can be turned into such a miserable example of a human being.

Don' tell them its your last day. Request 8 hour day. Enjoy your 12 hour day. Its not like they will terminate for performance.

DS · 08-21-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by packagestud

After 30 years, I'm planning to retire Nov. 30. I have 8 vacation weeks available and planned to use them during Dec. and Jan. to complete my 30 years of safe driving. It was approved by CM and DM; however, the RM denied the plan. At least three drivers in this state received permission to retire and use vacation in Dec.

I'm now in the process of filing a grievance with the Union, who consider this total **. To help bolster my case, I would like to hear from anyone who has had a similar experience. Thanks for your help.

This is just mean,I suggest you drag your ass and make as much as you can through your last peak...

hoser · 08-21-2007, 11:17 PM

the cdn collective agreement says that no vacation can be taken between the last week of november and 26 december. so, i don't know if there's much to grieve, based on this contract example.

retired2000 · 08-22-2007, 05:19 AM

work through peak like they want you to. then tak eyour vacation starting the day after christmas. this will take you into the next year. i understand that if you ge tpaid one day in the new year you are intitled to a whole new year of vacation and sick time. i would check it out.

yeldarb · 08-22-2007, 08:30 AM

In my district, vacation isnt a new calendar year reset. It is your anniversary/hire date reset. Option days are the contract anniversary. (aug 1). January 1st as far as I know does not reset anything that I am aware of.

retired2000 · 08-22-2007, 02:49 PM

sorry to hear that.

over9five · 08-22-2007, 02:55 PM

Thanks for your 30 years, Packagestud.

(Now bend over so we can give it to you one more time)

Makes ya proud to be an employee, doesn't it?

1989 · 08-22-2007, 07:45 PM

Can't you just cash out your vacation in October and retire on you retire date?

packagestud · 08-22-2007, 09:12 PM

Yes, I could cash out my vacation money in October or November, however I want to reach my 30 year safe driving day in the middle of Jan. As much as this company stresses safety I thought they could cut me a little slack. Also, as stated in the opening statement drivers in my state and even in my own center have been allowed to use their vacation during peak.

over9five · 08-23-2007, 05:45 AM

Why do you want to make your 30 year safe driving date? You're retiring, why would you care?

I'm not being sarcastic, serious question. The company you're trying to get 30 years safe driving with has just stabbed you in the heart. Give them the finger on your way out the door.

rod · 08-23-2007, 07:48 AM

A very wise older retired UPS friend of mine told me when I was getting ready to retire that there is always another carrot at the end of the stick. Meaning that if you stay another 6 months you qualify for more vacation or maybe in 3 more months you get another 2 personal holdays. Who knows- maybe if you work 6 more weeks you can get another cheap billfold or hang in there until Christmas because heaven forbid you don't get your turkey.The bottom line is GET OUT as soon as you qualify. I guarantee you won't regret it.

disneyworld · 08-23-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by packagestud

Yes, I could cash out my vacation money in October or November, however I want to reach my 30 year safe driving day in the middle of Jan. As much as this company stresses safety I thought they could cut me a little slack. Also, as stated in the opening statement drivers in my state and even in my own center have been allowed to use their vacation during peak.

30 yrs safe driving? Why-are they giving you some power tools or something?

p1000 · 08-23-2007, 04:36 PM

My last day is also Christmas Eve. I am just bidding my vacation days in January and February. I will use my Personal and Sick days the 1st 2 weeks of January. 31 years and counting ever last day till I am out.

upsgrunt · 08-23-2007, 06:15 PM

It seems to be the general rule around here that retirees also have to file grievances to get their earned vacation time for the year following their retirement. Does this happen anywhere else?

over9five · 08-23-2007, 07:06 PM

"...that retirees also have to file grievances to get their earned vacation time for the year following their retirement."

Thats just UPS givin' ya that last kick in the a** on your way out the door.

<Thanks for all them years of service>

packagestud · 08-23-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by over9five

Why do you want to make your 30 year safe driving date? You're retiring, why would you care?

I'm not being sarcastic, serious question. The company you're trying to get 30 years safe driving with has just stabbed you in the heart. Give them the finger on your way out the door.

That is a good question. I guess this would just be something positive to take into retirement. Besides memories of my fellow co-workers and customers what else is there? Just look at this forum it is filled with anger and bitterness.
Thanks for the reply

packagestud · 08-23-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by disneyworld

30 yrs safe driving? Why-are they giving you some power tools or something?

There is always a joker in every crowd, or wait a moment are you the RA that denied my request?

packagestud · 08-23-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by p1000

My last day is also Christmas Eve. I am just bidding my vacation days in January and February. I will use my Personal and Sick days the 1st 2 weeks of January. 31 years and counting ever last day till I am out.

Why work thru peak if you don't have to?

packagestud · 08-23-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by upsgrunt

It seems to be the general rule around here that retirees also have to file grievances to get their earned vacation time for the year following their retirement. Does this happen anywhere else?

Can you tell me which state you are from and any information that might help with the grievance?
Thanks,

upsgrunt · 08-23-2007, 07:52 PM

Sure thing stud,
I'm in east central Illinois and belong to the local 710. I will check with my recent retired friends and get back to you with any info I can.

satellitedriver · 08-23-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by packagestud

I thought they could cut me a little slack.

After 30 yrs, you should know that there is no slack given at UPS.
Good luck with your retirement.
I just hope it is not under the CS plan.
If you have to fill your time, do it to the best of your ability.
You have served and earned the right to retire.
But, you also have the responsiblity to serve your whole sentence, under the rule of contract.
When it is all said and done, you can say to yourself, "I did it."
Many on this forum will not be able to wear that badge of honor.
Hang tuff.
PAX