Hiring relatives - Brown Cafe

Quigley · 10-24-2007, 01:39 PM

What is the policy now on hiring relatives? I`m a feeder driver and my son wants to work part time in the same building. Where can I find the policy in writing, there is nothing in the contract that I can see.
Thank You Quigley

dragracer66 · 10-24-2007, 01:41 PM

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What is the policy now on hiring relatives? I`m a feeder driver and my son wants to work part time in the same building. Where can I find the policy in writing, there is nothing in the contract that I can see.
Thank You Quigley

In metro phila it happen's all the time.....

Channahon · 10-24-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Quigley

What is the policy now on hiring relatives? I`m a feeder driver and my son wants to work part time in the same building. Where can I find the policy in writing, there is nothing in the contract that I can see.
Thank You Quigley

Welcome to Brown Cafe and enjoy your stay.

The only policy UPS has on hiring relatives is in regards to UPS management. Check with you Human Resource rep or management team and let them know your son is interested in working part time at UPS.

diesel96 · 10-24-2007, 03:36 PM

There's a Feeder Driver in my bldg who has a daughter working part time there.

dcdriver · 10-24-2007, 03:41 PM

Anyone who want their relatives to work for UPS must be trying to start a family fued

Quigley · 10-24-2007, 03:48 PM

I asked the local Human Resources rep and he told me since I start my shift before the local sort started my son wouldnt be able to work local sort. And since my shift desnt end before preload starts then he couldnt work there either. In other words we cant be in the same building at the same time. That doesn make any sense to me so thats why I`m asking. Sure would like to see something in writing about this.
Thanks Quigley

Big Babooba · 10-24-2007, 03:56 PM

At our building I know of 2 package drivers whose sons work part time, 1 on the local sort and 1 on the preload.

VTBrown · 10-24-2007, 03:58 PM

White River JCT VT center has a preload sup who is the sister of a full-time driver in the same center.

No...that is not my center

RockyRogue · 10-24-2007, 04:08 PM

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I asked the local Human Resources rep and he told me since I start my shift before the local sort started my son wouldnt be able to work local sort. And since my shift desnt end before preload starts then he couldnt work there either. In other words we cant be in the same building at the same time. That doesn make any sense to me so thats why I`m asking. Sure would like to see something in writing about this.

I'm going to go out on a limb based on the posts above and my own experience and say you're probably somewhere int the West. I had the same problem getting my brother on at UPS in Colorado. I found a better opportunity for him and he's working there now.

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At our building I know of 2 package drivers whose sons work part time, 1 on the local sort and 1 on the preload.

This doesn't surprise me. I didn't have a problem getting ANOTHER of my brothers on the same sort as I was working in Illinois. I don't know why the policy was enforced differently here.

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White River JCT VT center has a preload sup who is the sister of a full-time driver in the same center.

This sounds like a possible ethical problem IMHO. -Rocky

Quigley · 10-24-2007, 04:20 PM

I appreciate all the replys from everyone, but could someone please tell me where I could find the company policy on this in writing? And yes I`m in the west.
Thank You Quigley

#1angelfan · 10-24-2007, 04:21 PM

i know a father and son who both drive. i'm in southern california.

VTBrown · 10-24-2007, 05:00 PM

Page 26 of the Policy Book.

We Limit the Employment of Relatives. In order to help
maintain equal opportunity of employment for the general
public and equal opportunity of promotion for our employees,
we limit the hiring of relatives. Relatives of current employees
up to and including the level of center manager are eligible
only for part-time employment in operations. Relatives of
current employees at the level of division manager or above
are ineligible for employment. Also, we do not hire relatives
of former district managers or managers with equivalent or
higher levels of responsibility.
This policy helps us avoid misunderstandings, acts of
favoritism, or the perception of favoritism that could arise
were an employee in a position to influence the hiring,
work, or advancement of a relative.
For similar reasons, we discourage continuation of the
full-time or part-time employment of any employee who
marries another employee while either person holds a
management position.

RockyRogue · 10-24-2007, 05:07 PM

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And yes I`m in the west.

I thought so, based on the fact that the other posters with no problems were in the East. I'm guessing the people in the West are on a shorter leash than the East for one reason or another. Keep in mind you have a lot more Right To Work States here than in the East, too. -Rocky

Quigley · 10-25-2007, 11:24 AM

Thank You VTBROWN. I have allways heard about this elusive policy book but have never seen one. Where can a person get his hands on one?
Thank You Quigley

over9five · 10-25-2007, 11:33 AM

You can view the UPS Policy Book at upsers.com.
Go to "My Workspace", then "Resources"

It's an exciting read!

Quigley · 10-25-2007, 12:21 PM

Thank you over9five. Been there many times never knew it was there.
Thanks again Quigley

tonycl65 · 05-19-2008, 10:13 AM

When it says employment of relatives......What is a relative exactly.

I guess I'm asking what counts. I understand spouse, children, siblings and parents.

What about grandparents and in-laws like brother in-laws and such?

Anyone know for sure what the cut-off is?

Thanks

Tony

HazMatMan · 05-19-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Quigley

What is the policy now on hiring relatives? I`m a feeder driver and my son wants to work part time in the same building. Where can I find the policy in writing, there is nothing in the contract that I can see.
Thank You Quigley

He can work there, no problem. Several relatives working in my building.

brady · 05-19-2008, 12:14 PM

at our building in southern florida we have a son who preloads and his dad drives!

tritese · 05-19-2008, 12:33 PM

I don't think there is a written policy. I would go over that HR reps head. At our hub, the policy was no relatives for years but it changed about 6-7 years ago.......there were sisters working at same hub before policy changed......everyone knew they were sisters and nothing was said.....i think it depends on who you are (unfortunately)....i know of a lot of feeder drivers who have children working in the hub and on preload.....

Baba gounj · 05-19-2008, 04:16 PM

Heck we had mother & son working the same hours, another father & son as driver and preload, cousins working on the same shift, another mother is clerical and her daughter is HR .
Honestly I wished a few more of my relatives would apply here, so they could just how hard & degrading it really is.

rod · 05-19-2008, 04:28 PM

My brother-in-law and I both worked together as drivers at the same center for over 25 years. There was never any problem except he was always a suck up

DS · 05-19-2008, 04:59 PM

Quigley,things vary from state to state and each area has its own contract regarding specific issues.Talk to your shop steward,he can get you a copy of the contract.Otherwise just have your son apply and see if they hire him.

rocket man · 05-19-2008, 05:48 PM

YOUR a feeder driver you must have some years in answer your own question . get your head out of your a..... ask a ....steward

UPSn00b · 05-19-2008, 06:25 PM

My dad works in feeders, and I joined the company in 05 as a helper. I was hired part-time permanent on the preload in 06 as an unloader. Two months later I was "promoted" to a part-time sup. on the preload.

There is no problem with hiring family, I think the rule of thumb is that as long as you're not directly or indirectly supervising your relative, there shouldn't be a problem. It took a lot of research by the HR guy to figure this out, but it all worked out in the end.

It's a company policy, not a teamsters policy, so it shouldn't vary much from buillding to building, or region to region. Just make sure your HR person knows their stuff...sometimes, they're not in the know on some of this stuff....just quote some policy book from UPSers and you should be OK.

P.S. I'm no longer a PT Sup....greener pastures in TSG for me!