United Way

[Channahon]

The United Way Campaign is all about YOUR community. Donations are distributed based on your home zip code. If you have a favorite charity, ask for a designation form to direct your monies where you want.

If you've never seen a designation form, you may be surprised at the number of charities that benefit from the United Way. I know the campaign is over, and another way you can help your community is to volunteer, which with the holiday season coming, there are many needs out there.

There aren't many other great feelings out in the world today, but making someone less fortunate than you, feel better about themselves, is a great feeling.

JMO

[silfox9986]

Originally Posted by local804

Why not just give directly to the Salvation Army and cut out the middle man?
There are no "administation fees" if its done this way.

[silfox9986]

Hey A__h__e why not support something the company supports and raise's over 50Million $$$$$$$$$$.......must be a bad idea

[local804]

Originally Posted by silfox9986

Hey A__h__e why not support something the company supports and raise's over 50Million $$$$$$$$$$.......must be a bad idea

I would like to have a choice on what I would like to do with my money, thank you though for your kind support. There are many other foundations you can give to without a boss twisting your arm. United Way took out a full page to thank Bruce trotttier from UPS and other top companies for thier large contributions. Never on this page, did it say anything about monies from UPS employees, they just thanked Bruce. Few drivers tried for help from th UW when they had some serious problems. UW was unable to help them because they made too much money. Following year, after tons of complaints, they allowed a fund to go directly to that driver. I chose not to give, my choice. Oral Suer UW scam also makes me cringe. The guys collect 1000 bucks for the family that needs help, that family gets 1,000 bucks. If it went through the united way, they would only get $860. you do the math

[Fnix]

Originally Posted by silfox9986

Hey A__h__e why not support something the company supports and raise's over 50Million $$$$$$$$$$.......must be a bad idea

If it wasn't for managements intimidations it wouldn't be 50 million

[UpstateNYUPSer]

The one point that no one has yet to mention is the tax write off that you get if you itemize on your return. For me, I get back approx. 25% of what I donate, so my $25/week nets a return of $325 off of my taxes. This is the easiest way for me to donate as I don't even see the money. I find it hard to believe that any of us would miss $2/week but I do agree that giving money should be VOLUNTARY.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by silfox9986

Hey A__h__e why not support something the company supports and raise's over 50Million $$$$$$$$$$.......must be a bad idea

Some of us don't agree with the gestapo tactics used by management in regards to the United Way. Management will never tell me who, when, where to donate my personal money. {abbreviated profanity is still profanity}

edited by Cheryl...

[UPS Lifer]

Originally Posted by Griff

Some of us don't agree with the gestapo tactics used by management in regards to the United Way. Management will never tell me who, when, where to donate my personal money. GTFO.

I don't think it is right for management to pressure anyone to contribute to any cause.

But I also find it revolting for management to be referred to as using gestapo tactics.... that is just a very ignorant statement to make.
This statement ties the nazi secret police to UPS management. VERY VERY INAPPORPRIATE!

I know over the years we have all been harrassed about giving. Several years ago I did not give and the following months I was harrassed everyday. Someone stated to me as to the reason I was being harrassed was retailation for being the only one to not give.
I do believe that to be true because I now every year give and they have not harrassed me like that again.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Sammie

It's always been a big competition between UPS districts over who will raise the most money and who will make the News Letter. Who will be the "winner"????? The big "Thermometer Thing" in the hubs monitor how much has been received and God and everybody else knows who and how much has been received.

I used to monitor "God's List".

Guilt, humiliation and pressure were used at work, which resulted in many of us contributing -00000- from then on. Way to go, management.

Behind the scenes, United Way has had huge financial accounting
scandals and their new CFO, hired in 2006 to revamp the organization,
resigned already, charging that the scandal-ridden organization is exaggerating the amount of money it raised.

So much for the public's confidence. Not many of us appreciate being "coerced" into doing much of anything, considering what we already donate for our kids at school, at our churches, grocery stores are asking for donations at the check out lines and our friends e mail us for donations left and right (tho I must admit that the fight against breast cancer is admirable).

But the pressure of this United Way thing, even for those of us who are no longer employed at the company, is like a wart on your a## that won't go away. Giving out of guilt is hardly the answer. We can hang up on telemarketers but not so for the strong armed, workplace tactics.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by local804

I would like to have a choice on what I would like to do with my money, thank you though for your kind support. There are many other foundations you can give to without a boss twisting your arm. United Way took out a full page to thank Bruce trotttier from UPS and other top companies for thier large contributions. Never on this page, did it say anything about monies from UPS employees, they just thanked Bruce. Few drivers tried for help from th UW when they had some serious problems. UW was unable to help them because they made too much money. Following year, after tons of complaints, they allowed a fund to go directly to that driver. I chose not to give, my choice. Oral Suer UW scam also makes me cringe. The guys collect 1000 bucks for the family that needs help, that family gets 1,000 bucks. If it went through the united way, they would only get $860. you do the math

[brown bomber]

hey folks here's unique idea...why not take advantage of the UPS gift match when making charitable contributions..they have some restrictions...but I've personally used this to double up on $1000's of charitable contributions...the form used to be available on UPSers.com...however I haven't been able to find it recently...so just ask your supervisor for a gift matching form...please make sure that your charity meets the guidelines (most are educational and cultural)...

[brownmonster]

Do you give to your church? Some of the Pastor's are set up in some pretty nice free digs and have a nice paid for retirement pkg. Someone has to run the show. I give 7 bucks a week to United Way. Have never been harrassed about giving. Just fill in the card and hand it in. We usually have guest speakers from some of the local United Way supported agencies come in to speak if you consider that harrassment. BM

[slowdriver]

United way fraud... "Area United Way's Ex-Chief Admits $500,000 Fraud" from the washington post.. here is the link http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true . When they ask you to contribute money to the united way Tell them no Thanks..

This is an old story but i thnk it still goes on.

[covemaster]

I gave to united way for years !!!! don't recall them asking me if I needed any thing during my little summer break in august of 97

[moreluck]

covemaster....that's because they were busy helping a child with spina bifada who was in much worse shape than you.

[leastbest]

When I got my thirty years in at UPS I expected the cake and handing out of my plaque at the morning meeting. No plaque or cake. I spoke to my CM and he hemmed and hawed and a couple weeks later as I was punching out, the clerk told me the plaque was in the office and to pick it up. Not even a handshake.

I was surprised that not getting that cake bothered me. I saw a lot of guys ahead of me get the cake and the ceremony actually meant something to me.

I talked to my CM a few more times but it was clear I wasn't going to get it.

Ever since then when it comes to United Way I tell them I'd like to but I'm spending the money on cake.

[Big Babooba]

Originally Posted by brownmonster

Do you give to your church? Some of the Pastor's are set up in some pretty nice free digs and have a nice paid for retirement pkg. Someone has to run the show. I give 7 bucks a week to United Way. Have never been harrassed about giving. Just fill in the card and hand it in. We usually have guest speakers from some of the local United Way supported agencies come in to speak if you consider that harrassment. BM

Well I've had a center manager yell at me when I decided that I no longer wanted to donate. He wanted 100% participation and wasn't going to get his goal. I was on workman's comp for 10 months and couldn't afford it. Would you consider that harrasment?

[Pasaholic]

Nobody give to the united Way!! I went on a tour when I was a preloader and went to a drug rehab center, a center that "helps teen mothers and homeless feeding center. Those are lifestyle choices, not charity, not getting my money

[moreluck]

I also toured a similar facility in Escondido, CA. called St Clare's Home. This is from their site....

"St. Clare's two year program for homeless and abused women includes: Education & Career Guidance including Life Skills Classes on Health Care, Safety, Parenting Nutrition, Domestic Violence & Child Abuse Prevention Education, Computer Literacy, Journaling, Art Therapy, Anger Management and more. "

This program was also the recipient one year of the UPS charity donation. This was not a 30 or 60 day program, but a 2 yr. program that turns lives around. Never once did I look at the little kids and think....."My, they sure have made some poor choices."

The work being done there is important. Mothers are trained in job skills and the quality of their lives are improved as is their children's.

If I had your attitude, I would have no kids of my own........I have 2 that were at one time totally lost and lived with "poor choices".....however there was one constant in their lives......parents who didn't give up. They are now productive people with kids of their own and living a completely "turned around" life....thank God.

We can't just 'write' people off. Some of the programs out there really work. Lives are saved .

[2Slow]

Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

I don't think it is right for management to pressure anyone to contribute to any cause.

But I also find it revolting for management to be referred to as using gestapo tactics.... that is just a very ignorant statement to make.
This statement ties the nazi secret police to UPS management. VERY VERY INAPPORPRIATE!

It is an inflammatory statment to be sure. What the Nazis did is hard to even imagine. I am aware of nothing that UPS has done that comes close to the vast number of murders commited by the Nazis and the Gestapo.

That said, there is NO QUESTION that UPS managment has a culture of harassment, intimidation, and immoral, unethical, and in some cases illegal behavior. I have never seen a decent, moral guy do well in managment ( a few manage to keep their heads down as FT supervisors, but not at managment level). I have seen so many despicable things from those guys that it is very easy to believe that they are capable of just about anything.

Are they Nazis? No.
Would they use violence if they thought they could get away with it? I believe they would. (My opinion)
Do they deliberatly attempt to create an enviroment of fear and distrust? Yes.
Do they lie, cheat, and even steal to get their way? Yes.
Do they deliberatly disseminate propaganda? Yes
Do they attempt to silence dissent? Yes.

Are these "Gestapo Tactics"? Well, the Gestapo did not invent these tactics, but they used them. UPS did not invent these tactics, but they also use them.