Driver terminated using gps info

[The-UK-Guy]

Originally Posted by soberups

The typical pattern is this; management will always overlook a drivers dishonesty AS LONG as it is making the center look good on paper. Once there is a mistake...or once a mess gets created that is too big to hide from Loss Prevention...the management will then turn on the driver like a pack of hyenas in order to save their OWN jobs. They will work hand in hand with Loss Prevention to terminate the "dishonest" driver and make an example of him. One hand washes the other.

or @&%$ rolls down hill

[Mike Hawk]

Is DRing the next 8-10 resi stops in the truck a no no? Most of the drivers I have helped just DR a pile at once because they can use the DIAD faster than I can, then I run them while they sort the truck or run some themselves.

[UpstateNYUPSer]

I assume that you are talking about peak. The rules tend to go out the window during peak. There is nothing wrong with sheeting, DRing, and stop completing 8-10 resi stops, esp. if you are not that good with the DIAD. Veteran drivers know the delivery location for 99+% of their stops so it is not that big of a deal. The GPS might not like it but it will get over it.

[LKLND3380]

Originally Posted by IWorkAsDirected

We had a driver terminated last week. He had scanned and stop completed a NDA before getting to the stop. We get really reamed if we have late air. For awhile I was delivering late air at least twice a week even tho I ran straight air, I learned a long time ago to take the criticisim but do it by the book.

Aannny waay..... They have been bringing drivers in and showing them their gps movements, they are threatening to terminate for going off area for any personal reason, go to the bank, lunch whatever. This driver was caught being dishonest on a stop, but the gps info was the proof.

Our center manager said this: "Be careful what you do, with all this new technology I kid you not, they can almost tell you what color tissue you wipe your nose with out there."

Can you toss the diad in a lead box? There must be someway to prevent/jam the signal.

[1989]

I was told the other day I couldn't drive eight tenths of a mile (.8 of a mile) off a certain route to go home for lunch anymore. But I can drive over 4 miles on route. So my wife picks me up down the block now. I take my diad with me so they probably think I'm still driving home anyway.

[Mike Hawk]

Sometimes I get to help during non peak, mostly in January but with all our injuries I might get some during the summer vacation season. The rules didn't seem to change during non peak, but maybe that was because the driver was pissed to be heavy enough for a helper during non peak.

You would have to take it out at some point to get sigs and use it, at which point it could transmit. However if you had some electric know how, and maybe an anarchists cookbook you might be able to jam it or something.

[browniehound]

Originally Posted by 1989

I was told the other day I couldn't drive eight tenths of a mile (.8 of a mile) off a certain route to go home for lunch anymore. But I can drive over 4 miles on route. So my wife picks me up down the block now. I take my diad with me so they probably think I'm still driving home anyway.

Why would you take your DIAD with you if you are disiplined for going off route? Why not just leave it in the truck when your wife picks you up to avoid any confrontations?

[1989]

Originally Posted by browniehound

Why would you take your DIAD with you if you are disiplined for going off route? Why not just leave it in the truck when your wife picks you up to avoid any confrontations?

Because I don't care. They won't question my integrity.

[kene1024]

Originally Posted by Mike Hawk

Sometimes I get to help during non peak, mostly in January but with all our injuries I might get some during the summer vacation season. The rules didn't seem to change during non peak, but maybe that was because the driver was pissed to be heavy enough for a helper during non peak.

You would have to take it out at some point to get sigs and use it, at which point it could transmit. However if you had some electric know how, and maybe an anarchists cookbook you might be able to jam it or something.

You can always wrap it in aluminum foil if you don't want it to receive GPS coordinates. Depending on the distance to the cell towers, that might also be enough shielding to kill off data transmissions too.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by 1989

I was told the other day I couldn't drive eight tenths of a mile (.8 of a mile) off a certain route to go home for lunch anymore. But I can drive over 4 miles on route. So my wife picks me up down the block now. I take my diad with me so they probably think I'm still driving home anyway.

I deliver in a rural area. If they tried to tell ME that, I would be taking a crap in the back of the truck everyday instead of driving to a bathroom. I think my management team, as well as carwash, would prefer that I go ahead and drive that extra .8 mile.

[JJ53]

They walked a driver out the door this morning for running up his miles and prerecording stops and stop completing them while he was running up miles. They had security in and upper management handled the whole situation. I am not sure he will get his job back with all the evidence they have against him. I think they even went out and followed him one day.

[trplnkl]

I'm wondering if he admitted to "prerecording stops and stop completing them while he was running up miles."? If he did, say goodbye buddy.
Why would anyone try that with the knowledge that they can track you with the GPS? Our CM has said in several PCMs that we have the technology to do this, by this point everyone should be aware of the possibility and not try to pump their numbers. I had to come to the reality that the numbers are bogus and unrealistic to keep myself from going nuts to make those numbers. It's a game I am no longer willing to play.

Actually this "new" GPS isn't all that new, DiadIV has had it all along. The only difference is now they can track you in real time instead of having to wait till the next day to review the data.

[feeder53]

GPS has come a long way from its conception, and there are a good number of things that it can transmit. I do not know the capabilities of the UPS system, but I never under estimate the capabilities either. There is probably a number of things that can be turned on and off even from a remote location. I would do my job as directed and then I do not have to find out what that box is capable of doing. If we tamper with its abilities, that too is a violation of company policy.

[dilligaf]

I personally look forward to gps being implemented. Maybe they will get a clue on my rural rte that it actually does take that long to run it. LOL

[feeder53]

Yes, that is true, one must look at the positive things GPS has to offer.

[dilligaf]

As long as a driver does the route like it's supposed to be done and is not 'cheating' the system there is no reason to worry about it.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by LKLND3380

Can you toss the diad in a lead box? There must be someway to prevent/jam the signal.

A microwave oven will jam the signal. The chassis of the oven is designed to prevent the escape of harmful microwave radiation, it will prevent any signal from coming in or out.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by JJ53

They walked a driver out the door this morning for running up his miles and prerecording stops and stop completing them while he was running up miles. They had security in and upper management handled the whole situation. I am not sure he will get his job back with all the evidence they have against him. I think they even went out and followed him one day.

We had a guy fired for the same damn thing. He was an idiot. They videotaped him sitting there for two hours prerecording and stop completing, he was stealing time, and then he had the balls to come in and complain about being overdispatched. I have no sympathy for liars and thieves, and I have no problem with UPS showing them the door.

[brownmonster]

They learned how to use the GPS feature? They are evolving. Next they will figure out how to dispatch with PAS. Oh Oh.