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| Saturday PAS?This is a discussion on Saturday PAS? within the UPS Discussions forums, part of the Brown Cafe UPS Forum category; Good idea or bad idea.
It's happening here in a couple weeks. Should be interesting especially with the loading of ... |
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02-23-2008, 07:41 PM
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Rep Power: 1084 | Saturday PAS? Good idea or bad idea.
It's happening here in a couple weeks. Should be interesting especially with the loading of strip cars. All volume will be on one belt. One loader per four cars.
Anyone else have PAS on Saturdays yet?
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02-23-2008, 08:08 PM
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Rep Power: 18558 | Re: Saturday PAS? Why would pas be good on Saturdays, when it is not worth while during the week? I dont understand the premise of the poll.
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02-23-2008, 08:12 PM
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Rep Power: 9358 | Re: Saturday PAS? You have loaders for Saturday Air? How much can there be?
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02-23-2008, 08:18 PM
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Rep Power: 13347 | Re: Saturday PAS? Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy Why would pas be good on Saturdays, when it is not worth while during the week? I dont understand the premise of the poll.
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Maybe it's a good idea. Think about it.... Less than 1% of weekday volume. PAS might actually have a chance to succeed!
They probably should have started PAS this way. A little at a time....Work out the kinks before deploying it during the week.... |
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02-23-2008, 08:20 PM
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Rep Power: 9358 | Re: Saturday PAS? Are you allowed to make left turns on Saturday?
__________________ PAS All hype, no substance! |
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02-23-2008, 08:37 PM
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Rep Power: 9819 | Re: Saturday PAS? I had a couple of Saturday 2nd Day Airs on Friday (2S on the label). Is there such a thing? They had a Worldship Label on them. |
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02-23-2008, 08:38 PM
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Rep Power: 1084 | Re: Saturday PAS? Quote:
Originally Posted by brownmonster Are you allowed to make left turns on Saturday? | Just one. I still have to get back to the building |
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02-23-2008, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scratch I had a couple of Saturday 2nd Day Airs on Friday (2S on the label). Is there such a thing? They had a Worldship Label on them. | I see them all the time. They also upgrade savers and 3 day selects. |
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02-23-2008, 08:41 PM
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Rep Power: 1084 | Re: Saturday PAS? Quote:
Originally Posted by brownmonster You have loaders for Saturday Air? How much can there be? | No. A driver would load the cars. |
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02-23-2008, 08:44 PM
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Rep Power: 9358 | Re: Saturday PAS? Yes, there is a Saturday 2nd day. Obviously the fact you had 2 on a Friday shows we put the cart ahead of the horse on another service offering.
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02-23-2008, 09:06 PM
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Rep Power: 1084 | Re: Saturday PAS? Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy Why would pas be good on Saturdays, when it is not worth while during the week? I dont understand the premise of the poll.
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02-23-2008, 10:16 PM
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It was just for the hell of it
| and there you have it ladies and gents. The real reason UPS implimented PAS! And you heard it here first, on the brown cafe'
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02-23-2008, 10:40 PM
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Rep Power: 13085 | Re: Saturday PAS? Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five Maybe it's a good idea. Think about it.... Less than 1% of weekday volume. PAS might actually have a chance to succeed!
They probably should have started PAS this way. A little at a time....Work out the kinks before deploying it during the week.... |
I don't know if you were kidding or not, but I think it would have been an excellent idea to start PAS on the Saturday operations.
It was my opinion all along to start small and phase PAS in instead of just opening the flood gates and pissing all of our customers off for a good year.
Over, I guess this is why we don't make the big bucks. Apparently it was smarter to implement it the way it was, LOL.
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02-24-2008, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scratch I had a couple of Saturday 2nd Day Airs on Friday (2S on the label). Is there such a thing? They had a Worldship Label on them. | I think the Saturday 2 day air started at least 2 years ago. Pick'em up on Thursday, deliver'em on Saturday. |
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02-24-2008, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by outamyway Good idea or bad idea.
It's happening here in a couple weeks. Should be interesting especially with the loading of strip cars. All volume will be on one belt. One loader per four cars.
Anyone else have PAS on Saturdays yet? | Seems to me like things will mirror how Monday - Friday went.
Many PAS sites are doing great. Some (as many here have described) are not doing well.
What's the difference? Its not the system. Its not the training. Its not the support. Its not the hourly employees.
The difference is the local management team.
PAS is a great tool. But like any other tool, if used improperly it can do damage.
So, PAS on Saturday. Not worth doing if its not done right.
If done right, cost will reduce and service will improve.
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02-24-2008, 10:18 AM
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Rep Power: 566 | Re: Saturday PAS? Ditto pretzel_man. It seems to work well here. |
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02-24-2008, 10:53 AM
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Rep Power: 6341 | Re: Saturday PAS? Why would anyone want PAS/EDD on Saturdays? Saturdays are a piece of cake. At least they are here. Sorting out packages is part of how we get our hours. If we used PAS/EDD that would take 15-30 minutes off each Saturday.
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02-25-2008, 06:46 AM
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Rep Power: 2594 | Re: Saturday PAS? Quote:
Originally Posted by scratch I had a couple of Saturday 2nd Day Airs on Friday (2S on the label). Is there such a thing? They had a Worldship Label on them. | " 2S " has been around for some time.
The rule is to attempt delivery be the end of your day; all " 1+S "( by 9am) and then " 1S " ( by noon ) finally " 2S ". |
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02-25-2008, 07:08 AM
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Rep Power: 2594 | Re: Saturday PAS? PAS will be hard to do in Massachusetts on Saturday.
All buildings( South Boston, Somerville, Watertown, Norwood, Worcester, Chelmsford, Lynfield, Brockton,Cape Cod) send between 1-5 cars to UPS Logan Airport Building for a unload .Here each driver is in charge of what is loaded, mostly by towns or zipcodes. Then each car either returns to its own building to unload , or to meet other drivers somewhere, or leaves to start delivering .
Only the cars that return to their buildings would be able to be PAS. But again all cars are loaded by their drivers ( mostly only air drivers ) by town or zip codes. And in my building drivers can use only P700, P500 or P320 for Saturday work, that entails everyone finding their car and moving it to the one belt that is working. Many days the shuttle from Logan gets back before most drivers arrive . So the work is piled up until they show up.( if they show up ) Then after the sort is done we find out who is heavy & who is not , then its time to shift people and / or parcels around. |
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