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| FT Driver got a DUI last nightThis is a discussion on FT Driver got a DUI last night within the UPS Discussions forums, part of the Brown Cafe UPS Forum category; Originally Posted by dannyboy
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03-09-2008, 12:28 PM
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#51 | | Unknown Acrobat
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Originally Posted by dannyboy If you know you are going to have to drive, then dont drink. If you do drink, then dont drive. Its that simple.
d | I think this sums it up! |
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03-09-2008, 02:53 PM
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#52 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 3069 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night Here's a site where you can estimate your blood alcohol level-http://www.intox.com/wheel/drinkwheel.asp. You really have to try to get .08 There is a difference between drinking and driving and DUI. |
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03-09-2008, 04:49 PM
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#53 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 18301 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night If the chart is pretty accurate, then the driver that is headed home and gets three to consume on the way home has a BAC of .76
I would hate to be involved in something on the highway and test that high.
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03-09-2008, 05:12 PM
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#54 | | Moderation Assistant
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Rep Power: 13118 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night A long time ago when I was young and invincible,ten years before I started at ups,I got charged twice for impaired.The 2nd one got me a month in the "Don Jail",a crowded god forsaken hell hole in downtown Toronto.I had to share a cell with a weird freak with a mohawk that talked all night about how to make acid.I slept on my back with my eyes open every night,I got "TOLD" to never whistle in jail as I was not supposed to be happy,thank god legal aid got me outa there after a week and into "mimico" to serve the rest on weekends and go back to work during the day.I have not drank and driven once since then.
I bet I'm not the only one here that had to learn the hard way. |
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03-09-2008, 06:46 PM
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#55 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 18301 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night No you are not. Many years ago, I went to a birthday party. Since there was plenty of free booze, and I had someone to drive me home, I decided to get drunk.
First drink was a 16 OZ tumbler of 1/2 Jack and Coke. That tasted nasty, so the second 16oz was straight Jack. That was followed by two more. Dont remember much past that.
The next day we had invited some guests to the lake and of course out on the boat. I spent the whole day with my face right next to the Johnson 235. My eyes were blood red for three weeks.
Years after, I could watch JR on Dallas mixing himself a drink and I would smell it "through" the TV, and my stomach would start sending signals of "Oh no you dont"!!! Let me remind you of what I did the last time you thought about drinking!!!!
So I dont much care for anything that has alcohol in it anymore. I volunteer to be the desinated driver.
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03-09-2008, 08:49 PM
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#56 | | retired and happy
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Originally Posted by dannyboy If the chart is pretty accurate, then the driver that is headed home and gets three to consume on the way home has a BAC of .76
I would hate to be involved in something on the highway and test that high.
d | You will not be .76 after 3 drinks. At .76 you would be dead of alcohol poisoning. I believe anything .35 and above is deadly. The legal limit in the US now is .08. A lot of states had to lower their limits down from .10 or the gov. would take away their highway funding. |
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03-09-2008, 08:53 PM
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#57 | | retired and happy
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Rep Power: 9331 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night Hank the Drunk Dwarf on the old Howard Stern show would test out at .40 and Howard was always amazed he was alive |
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03-09-2008, 10:00 PM
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#58 | | Member
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Rep Power: 817 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night first of all, it's not against the law to drink and drive. It's against the law to drink TOO MUCH and drive. having a drink or two with a meal will certainly not take you over the limit unless you weigh 85 lbs. Dannyboy was competely correct in his post.
eating makes a huge difference. When you eat, the pyloric valve in your stomach closes and alcohol seaps into the intestine MUCH slower. if you have an empty stomach, it's almost instant.
yes, most people are usually dead at a .70...but there was a case up north this year where a woman tested at exactly that, and lived. I have encountered many persons above a .40 that were acting completely sober due to alchoholism. it's more common than you think.
The first thing alcholol effects is the ability to determine if you have had too much and if you think you are impaired.
in my state, and in alot of others, if you refuse the breath test, your DL is suspended for 12 mnths for the first refusal. IF you do get approved to get a Business purpose DL, the DL office will still put a 90 day hard suspention on your DL. which is probably why a previouse poster stated someone worked in the building for 90 days then went back to driving.
I just wanted to clear a few things up, since I know something about this subject. I have helped put over 4,000 drunk drivers in jail and been to hundreds of hours of schooling on the subject. |
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03-09-2008, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by upsrwife
I just wanted to clear a few things up, since I know something about this subject. I have helped put over 4,000 drunk drivers in jail and been to hundreds of hours of schooling on the subject. | I hope one of them wasn't your mother like that PassYouBy poster said he would do. |
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03-10-2008, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rod You will not be .76 after 3 drinks. At .76 you would be dead of alcohol poisoning. I believe anything .35 and above is deadly. The legal limit in the US now is .08. A lot of states had to lower their limits down from .10 or the gov. would take away their highway funding. | Rod makes a good point about alcohol levels. A lot of people leave out the zero after the decimal point (0.08) talking about toxicity levels. My wife used to work in an ER/Trauma Unit and would occasionally draw blood samples from drunk drivers. There is a point where you can drink too much and die. The serious alcoholics could look sober and be at a toxic level that would be fatal to the average person. Some people would be so drunk, the Lab Tech could actually smell the alcohol in the blood when it was being processed.
I don't get drunk and drive. Every great once in a while, one glass of wine or a beer with a meal in a restaurant. I don't hang out at bars or parties anymore since I started driving Package. I stay home if I feel the need to tie one on. It just isn't worth the risk to me. |
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03-10-2008, 07:11 AM
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#61 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 18301 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night Rod
Not hard drinks, beer. the driver consumes 3 cans of beer on the way home on an empty stomach.
One small correction to the post above. Yes it is illegal to drink and drive. Ever heard of the open container law? So how do you drink and drive without an open container?
And it does not have to be yours. Anyone drinking in your vehicle will send trouble your way.
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03-10-2008, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dannyboy Rod
One small correction to the post above. Yes it is illegal to drink and drive. Ever heard of the open container law? So how do you drink and drive without an open container?
And it does not have to be yours. Anyone drinking in your vehicle will send trouble your way.
d | Up until a couple of years ago I believe it was legal in Texas for a passenger in a vehical to have an open container. I'm not sure about the driver if he (or she) wasn't over the limit. But then again that is Texas- where you can still drive around with an uncased rifle hanging in the window of your pickup. In Wisc. it is legal to sell alcohol to a minor (18-20 years old) in a resturant if they are with their gardian. At least it was a
few years ago when my daughter went to the UW in Madison. |
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03-10-2008, 08:57 AM
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#63 | | ADKtrails
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Rep Power: 5134 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night I believe it was a very poor decision to drink and then drive, Especially if your job depends on the license. I have known people who worked for other driving companies and they stayed on. Some made them go to special programs to be able to stay on board. He should seek legal council ASAP, be honest and take the punishment that comes with the decision. |
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03-10-2008, 09:25 AM
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#64 | | retired and happy
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Rep Power: 9331 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night Usually a DUI is pretty much cut and dried. Hiring one of them crooked lawyers will only end up in you being broker. Thrown yourself on the mercy (ha ha) of the courts and take your punishment. |
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03-10-2008, 09:45 AM
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Rep Power: 18728 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night I like the way Keifer Sutherland handled his DUI.....he took it like a man.
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03-10-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rod Hank the Drunk Dwarf on the old Howard Stern show would test out at .40 and Howard was always amazed he was alive  | lol. |
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03-10-2008, 12:30 PM
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#67 | | Member
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Rep Power: 817 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night Why does everyone have to be a smart alec on here? you know exactly what I meant by what I said. Quote: |
Yes it is illegal to drink and drive. Ever heard of the open container law?
| let me refrase it so that you can understand. It isn't illegal to drink and THEN drive, just to drink to much and THEN drive. |
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03-10-2008, 04:09 PM
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#68 | | Senior Member
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Rep Power: 18301 | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night Dear Wife
Not trying to be a smart alec, just wanting to clarify your post. You stated Quote: | it's not against the law to drink and drive. It's against the law to drink TOO MUCH and drive.
| I added the bold.
So you stated it was not against the law to drink and drive. That implies that you are doing both at the same time. It was my post that you quoted Quote: |
Yes it is illegal to drink and drive. Ever heard of the open container law?
| Not trying to nit pick, but it is against the law to go driving down the road drinking alcohol of any kind. Does not matter what your BAC is when you get pulled over. Open container, serious trouble.
As for the too much, I agree, that is where most people have problems. The "know when you've had too much" is a more of a joke. When you begin to have too much, having too much is the last thing on your mind.
Just some observations.
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03-10-2008, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyboy Not trying to nit pick, but it is against the law to go driving down the road drinking alcohol of any kind. Does not matter what your BAC is when you get pulled over. Open container, serious trouble. | Actually, it depends on what state you're in: click
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03-10-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by upsrwife Why does everyone have to be a smart alec on here? you know exactly what I meant by what I said.
let me refrase it so that you can understand. It isn't illegal to drink and THEN drive, just to drink to much and THEN drive. | I appreciate your input, upsrwife. What kind of work do you do? |
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03-10-2008, 07:26 PM
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#71 | | Anonymous | Re: FT Driver got a DUI last night U-Wife
"I have put over 4,000 drunks in jail"
Can we ask how you did this?? | |
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03-10-2008, 10:12 PM
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