Share price

chriscraft · 01-27-2006, 03:35 PM

i give up when ups buys a company stock goes down fedex buys something stock goes up. ups is one of only a few a+ plus companies and made almost as much profit as fedex in one quarter as fedex made all last year yet they are 27:00 a share higher than ups also ups worth 80 billion fedex 30 please explain

over9five · 01-27-2006, 05:01 PM

It's those damn drivers! They make too much money...

browniehound · 01-28-2006, 09:59 AM

No, its those damn drivers walking the packages off instead of stuffing them in mailboxes

psstdrvr · 01-31-2006, 03:01 PM

Its called mismanagement getting undeserved bonuses!!

UPSBOI · 01-31-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by psstdrvr

Its called mismanagement getting undeserved bonuses!!

Hit the nail on the head with that statement!

beatupbrown · 01-31-2006, 06:07 PM

wow I sold my UPS stock in 2004 for 75 .This stock has gone no where.

psstdrvr · 02-01-2006, 01:23 AM

if the company wants to really get rid of all the lame duck managers, all they have to do is put breakfast out as recognition for the overworked drivers; after the drivers leave, fire the weasels who come out of they're hiding places to feed off the remains!

tuknick · 02-01-2006, 02:37 PM

Here is an idea, how about one thread on the Brown Cafe stay away from bashing drivers or management? wouldn't it be nice to chat about share price in the share price thread???
If you feel the need to bash, join another thread or make a new one.
I don't / have never worked for UPS, but I am an investor and come here for some of my information. I don't need to listen to school yard bickering from either side.

Tyrone Slothrop · 02-01-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tuknick

Here is an idea, how about one thread on the Brown Cafe stay away from bashing drivers or management? wouldn't it be nice to chat about share price in the share price thread???
If you feel the need to bash, join another thread or make a new one.
I don't / have never worked for UPS, but I am an investor and come here for some of my information. I don't need to listen to school yard bickering from either side.

turnick,

You do realize that anyone who currently works for UPS cannot really comment on anything relevant to the stock price. No talking about volume or customers or successes & failures. All they are really allowed to do is b1tch about whomever they hold to blame, be it pilots, drivers, management or BOD members. Suffice it to say, no one is really pleased with a negative return on their investment over the past X years. At least there is the dividend, hopefully to be raised soon!

If you sold today and put the money into FDX or JNJ, how much do you suppose you would be out, figuring in taxes and all, say in a years time?

moreluck · 02-07-2006, 11:56 AM

Feb. 7, 2006

A mere six U.S. companies now qualify for Standard & Poor's top credit rating of AAA. (In the early 1980s, there were 32.) Can you name the Solid Six? Here they are: Automatic Data Processing, ExxonMobil, General Electric, Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer and United Parcel Service.

CTOTH · 02-07-2006, 12:25 PM

Tuknick, you need to read the newsthreads and the wallstreet journal, not the message board.
If you had/have ever worked there you would understand the constant fued and it's ability to eat away at your cerebrum. There isn't day that goes by @ my center where there isn't a management/union employee issue. It's totally frustrating and as much as we all want to leave work at the door, you can't help but b1tch.

ups_vette · 02-08-2006, 12:01 PM

There are 1.1 BILLION shares of UPS Stock availabel compared to 350 MILLION shares of FedEX.

UPS has 3 times as many shares as FedEx..

If both companies had the same number of shares (350 million), UPS would be at over $200 per share and Fed Ex at $100 per share, or if both had 1.1 billion, UPS valued at $74 and FedEx at $33 per share.

ups79 · 02-08-2006, 12:05 PM

actually, my best comparison is that UPS pays out more in dividends per year than fdx makes.

02-08-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ups79

actually, my best comparison is that UPS pays out more in dividends per year than fdx makes.

Unfortunately, FDX went up more today ($2.36) than a years worth of dividends for UPS.

ups_vette · 02-09-2006, 01:18 PM

The difference between FedEx share price going up $2.36 and the UPS yearly dividend, is that you actually receive a check made out to you for the UPS dividend. In order to receive the $2.36 from FedEx you have to SELL the stock.

moreluck · 02-09-2006, 01:44 PM

upsvette......... AND suffer the tax consequences !!!

ups79 · 02-09-2006, 02:35 PM

once those independent contractors are declared employees, nationwide, it will go down. if you own you had better sell.

unregistered guest · 02-09-2006, 03:44 PM

Hate to be too argumentative but *some* of those ICs were ruled to be “employees” and others were NOT.

The specific ruling here was that those that owned/operated/whatever multiple areas were legitimate contractors and were not allowed to be a party to the lawsuit.

So what has FedEx been doing since mid 2004? They’ve been phasing out the single area routes for one thing.

I don’t know how they did it or what the terms were but three that were “owned” or “operated” or “serviced” or whatever by single area guys are now bundled up and being serviced by Somebody-or-other Trucking from the next town over.

Just like DHL – Trucks look just like every other DHL or FedEx Ground vehicle but have a small sign on the side that says “Operated by Whoever Trucking.”

Anyway, FedEx and their ICs aren’t going away and the courts have pretty much shown them how to solve their IC “problem.”

As for those that complain about rotten service from FedEx Ground or DHL, in my (limited) experience with them they are just fine. Only ordered a couple of things that ended up coming DHL (Campmor, I think) and cell phone batteries that came FedEX Ground. They did just great.

Someone also trained their drivers on the importance of turning off their vehicles and shutting the bulkhead door while they mill around delivering packages. Our regular UPS driver hasn’t quite figured that out yet despite personally calling it in several times.

trickpony1 · 02-09-2006, 09:27 PM

Why could it possibly matter to you if the UPS driver closes his bulkhead door?

The more important question- Did it make you feel really big/good/powerful to call in on the driver for such a minscule infraction?

Got too much time on your hands?

Hangingon · 02-09-2006, 11:14 PM

I doubt they even did anything with your complaint. When they show it to the driver it has the persons name and address but he obviously hasn't changed his habits in your neighborhood. Hope you had fun wasting your time, maybe try complaining if his socks are white next time.

moreluck · 02-10-2006, 06:37 AM

UPS Boosts Dividend
Thursday February 9, 4:57 pm ET
By TSC Staff,
UPS (NYSE:UPS - News) boosted its quarterly dividend by a nickel and put its finance chief on the board.
The Atlanta-based package giant said the moves reflect the board's confidence in the company's financial position and prospects for growth.
UPS named finance chief Scott Davis to the board, replacing Lea Soupata, who retired last month as UPS's senior vice president for human resources.
The company also boosted its quarterly dividend to 38 cents a share from the previous 33 cents, payable March 7 to holders of record Feb. 21.
"UPS generates exceptional cash flow and has raised its dividend in nine of the last 10 years," said CEO Mike Eskew. "Moving forward, we are confident that the company will continue to produce consistent, strong growth."

trickpony1 · 02-10-2006, 06:48 AM

"...while they mill around delivering packages".

Surely you must be referring to the other (DHL, Fredex) delivery company's drivers. Our drivers are too busy going like a bat out of hell to ".....mill around". Perhaps that is why he didn't take the time to close the bulkhead door.....he's just trying to turn good numbers to please his supervisor.

But then you already knew everything about that....didn't you?

tieguy · 02-10-2006, 09:56 AM

I have to admit there were times I was one of those short cutters when I delivered where I left the bulkhead door open. Never thought nothing of it.

Later I heard a story of someone who did so and had to hit the brakes hard. Handcart flew through the open door and almost killed him. Required a lot of surgery to fix the damage to his head and face.

One thing I am often amazed at is how the methods we preach for performance often have a safety benifit to them.

In the unload a load retainer strap when disconected should be stored in the 3 point position with 3 hooks hooked to the wall on one side. The obvious benifit to doing so is efficency and the safety of not having someone trip on a load retainer strap that is laying on the grates. I saw another good reason to enforce this method last week.

2 Shifters sitting side by side on two adjacent bays. Lets say bays 10 and 11. Shifter on Bay 10 is pulling an empty off the door. Load retainer strap in the back of his trailer has one hook hooked to the wall and the rest laying on the grates. Shifter pulls bay 10 one of the hooks on the strap portion laying on the grates gates on the edge of the dock plate. Strap stretches hook eventually releases. comes flying out fast and hard enough to put a dent in the shifter vehicle on ball 11 and crack the window glass shattering it. Imagine if a person had been standing where that shifter vehicle was sitting.

Trick I can appreciate your irritation with the post about bulkhead doors but I think the poster was more dissapointed then critical when he/she made that post.

moreluck · 02-10-2006, 10:03 AM

We live in a hilly development. I watched the UPS man turn into a street, package comes flying out the main door because his bulkhead door was open I remember thinking, "Gosh I hope that isn't my Waterford order from Cash's.

Your training says keep it closed.
For your safety, keep it closed.
For less damages, keep it closed.
You get paid to keep it closed.

moreluck · 02-16-2006, 04:15 PM

UPS To Order 4100 Low-emission Trucks in '06

ATLANTA, Georgia, Feb 16 (Reuters) - United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Thursday it will order 50 hybrid electric delivery vehicles and acquire 4,100 low-emission vehicles during 2006 as part of a strategy to cut costs.
"We are working on the same assumption as most of the rest of the world that oil is not going to last forever," UPS fleet environment manager Robert Hall told Reuters. "As the world changes we are going to need to deliver our packages in a fuel-efficient manner."
The Atlanta, Georgia-based company said each of the 50 hybrid electric vehicles, or HEVs, will save some 44,000 gallons of fuel annually.
Apart from emitting 16,000 fewer tons of carbon dioxide annually, the 4,100 low-emission trucks are also 15 percent more fuel-efficient and will save UPS 1.5 million gallons per year, the company said.
UPS, the world's largest package delivery company, has a global fleet of around 91,000 vehicles.
The company would not disclose how much the new trucks will cost, but spokesman Norman Black said the HEVs generally cost twice as much as ordinary trucks.
"But the idea is to recoup that investment through fuel savings," he said.
The HEVs will reduce UPS' emissions by 457 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year.
A hybrid vehicle replaces a conventional engine with a small fuel-efficient diesel engine that acts as a generator providing energy for batteries and drive motors that power the vehicle.
The vehicles also contain regenerative braking, by which the energy generated from slowing or stopping the truck is captured and stored in the vehicle's battery.
The HEVs will be produced by International Truck and Engine, which is the primary operating subsidiary of Navistar International (NAV.N: