Dont want to quit.

[trickpony1]

Why hasn't anyone suggested the "UK Guy" consult an immigration attorney?

It wouldn't hurt to talk to one.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

Thanks for all the support. I know I can beat this Im not throwing in the towel yet, I just need to buy some time thats all. I have to fight this one over on the other side of the pond so as not to break any laws. It wouldnt be worth coming back to the USA without a job , It would be easier to move my family to the UK. 17 years is a long time to just kiss off . It would be very difficult for my wife and kids to leave their home and family,job,schools etc. Please keep the suggestions coming, I was able to save my job once before from advice that I received on Brown Cafe I`m hoping for a second.

don't understand why they deport you after 17 years?

you get into a little trouble here?
Join the military serve your new country. You won't be going anywhere then.

[Jones]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Join the military serve your new country. You won't be going anywhere then.

Actually, I think he'll be going somewhere hot as soon as he finishes his MOS training....

[The-UK-Guy]

Originally Posted by tieguy

don't understand why they deport you after 17 years?

you get into a little trouble here?
Join the military serve your new country. You won't be going anywhere then.

troubles my middle name Tie
I got into a little trouble back in 1998 but I was never convicted or prosecuted.
The day America gets invaded I will sign up but I`m not going to leave my kids fatherless for some BS war on terror.
If I wanted sarcastic BS I would have asked my wife

[The-UK-Guy]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

Why hasn't anyone suggested the "UK Guy" consult an immigration attorney?

It wouldn't hurt to talk to one.

I just dropped 5 grand on one. its in my best interest to follow the laws of the US. Its a pain in the $* but it will ensure my future here.
Finding a way to get time off work is much easier (I hope) than finding a way around the INS.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by trplnkl

Quote:
I can't speak for Sober but, I think what he is saying in the underlined sentence is that it's doesn't seem right to make a LEGAL immigrant leave after 17 years without apparent reason. Especially when our country is being overran by ILLEGAL immigrants. Illegals that are draining our social resources at a much higher rate than any taxes they might pay.....please don't get me started on this.

Thats pretty much what I meant, although I am also somewhat sympathetic towards the illegals who are here picking our food and mopping our floors. Some sort of guest worker program needs to be implemented for them....for the most part they are doing work that Americans are too lazy to do.
It just doesnt make sense to me to have strict immigration limits from Canada or the UK. First of all, its not like there are thousands of them trying to sneak in. Second of all, we already have an open and unguarded border with Canada. Thirdly, we have a very strong military and political alliance with both countries. Both countries have similar labor, enviornmental and human rights laws to ours. Canucks and limeys ought to be able to come and go freely as far as I'm concerned.

[toonertoo]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

Why hasn't anyone suggested the "UK Guy" consult an immigration attorney?

It wouldn't hurt to talk to one.

Very good advice, since I have never been or known anyone with this problem it never dawned on me, duh.
Thanks trick!!

[The-UK-Guy]

Originally Posted by tieguy

don't understand why they deport you after 17 years?

you get into a little trouble here?
Join the military serve your new country. You won't be going anywhere then.

I am not getting deported. I didnt file the appropriate paper work on 8 14 04 to extend my visa. My lawyer has advised me and so have the INS officials that the safest and most appropriate way to ensure my right of abode in the USA is to leave the country of free will before my status becomes revoked thus not breaking any laws or agreements I made with the INS and filing for a 10 year extention from my home country, returning when the stay is granted which could take up to 6 months. More likely than not it will only take a matter of weeks. To be on the safe side expecting the worst would be best thats why I want 6 months leave. There are other alternatives but I cant afford them. Since 9 11 immigration laws are strictly enforced and I cant risk pissing off uncle sam.

[The-UK-Guy]

Hey Tie, or any other suits out there for that matter.
In all honesty what are the chances of getting a leave if I were to be straight up and ask.
I am a hard worker , I have a spotless record ,(apart from the taco ordeal) am well liked by suits and customers , work as directed and believe it or not practice good work ethics and methods.
I like to solve problems I may have without the union getting involved and by being straight up. I have a good relationship with my center team but is the final word going to be out of their hands ? I am running out of time , my gut feeling is telling me that honesty is the best policy.
I`m screwed huh !

[trickpony1]

The company could put you on "special assignment" in your home country.
Don't tell me it can't be done....the company can do whatever they want.

[The-UK-Guy]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

The company could put you on "special assignment" in your home country.
Don't tell me it can't be done....the company can do whatever they want.

they cant, completely different set of rules. You cant transfer from west to east either. I dont have a driving license in the UK either

[BLACKBOX]

I'm a little bit confused there UK guy, 17 years employment and you are possibly facing visa problems??? Were you on a temporary work visa? Why in the 17 years you not consider trading in that greencard for permanent status?
Whats preventing you from applying for US citizenship? Are we getting the whole story or are you leaving something out???

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

Hey Tie, or any other suits out there for that matter.
In all honesty what are the chances of getting a leave if I were to be straight up and ask.

Not a tie but I'd think your chances are almost nil. The retention supe for my sort tried to get me to stay. I told him to pass the word that I needed six weeks off til the end of my school term and would come back. While he didn't quite say it, he wanted promises I'd stick around into '08. When he confirmed my interpretation of his double-talk, I laughed him out of the bunker . At another job I held for almost three years, I explored a six-month leave to pursue an internship. My HR manager told me I'd have to quit and get re-hired, going to the bottom of the wage and seniority scale. My leave requests were denied. Still....might not hurt to try. I'd go directly to HR and show them a couple sheets of official paperwork detailing your situation. They might work with you but I'd be surprised given my experiences. -Rocky

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

Why in the 17 years you not consider trading in that greencard for permanent status?
Whats preventing you from applying for US citizenship? Are we getting the whole story or are you leaving something out???

British subjects are touchy about their status. I knew one a couple years ago that could have saved a BUNDLE on his education if he'd been an American citizen. He refused to do it, citing something about right of abode and something else (completely foreign to me). Its possible we're not getting the entire story, too. -Rocky

[The-UK-Guy]

Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

I'm a little bit confused there UK guy, 17 years employment and you are possibly facing visa problems??? Were you on a temporary work visa? Why in the 17 years you not consider trading in that greencard for permanent status?
Whats preventing you from applying for US citizenship? Are we getting the whole story or are you leaving something out???

Im leaving about 8 pages of red tape out. I`ll make you all a deal, if you all stop treating me like I`m on trial and help me out , i will scan and post all the paperwork , reasons, laws and regulations that I have to abide by. I love America but refuse to become a citizen of this country because I am English Born n Bred I`m not an American and Im not a hypocrate. I yam wat I yam tsk tsk..

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

I love America but refuse to become a citizen of this country because I am English Born n Bred I`m not an American and Im not a hypocrate. I yam wat I yam tsk tsk..

ROFLMAO.....Blackbox, I told you British subjects are touchy about their status!!

UK-Guy....excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing for a few minutes. After that, I say you go back to the UK. You don't belong in the United States of America. I love the Brits but this attitude is offensive. You want to come to AMERICAN shores, enjoy AMERICAN freedoms BUT you don't want to follow AMERICAN laws OR become an AMERICAN citizen?? GET OUT!!!!!!

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this OR get a slap on the wrist from a moderator but this attitude isn't respectable. -Rocky

[The-UK-Guy]

Jeeeze you guys , what the hell , either help out or dont .
I shouldnt have to owe anyone any information into my personal affairs to get some suggestions or bribe anyone with juicy gossip for some assistance.
Im not a terrorist, threat to homeland security, escaped convict or menace to society im a truck driver who didnt fill out the right forms in time.
No conspiracy theory here sorry Leaving the country for a little while really isnt that big a deal guys , there is more to life than the 52 states
we even have electricity and running water over in the UK now.
what the hell happend to a freind in need ? It would be hard for my wife and kids to adjust to the way of life back home, If they would willingly go I would be out of here in a second. I asked for help , if any one can help me out I would really appreciate it. You are supposed to help people just to help them you shouldnt require a reason or alterier motive to help for helps sake !

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

Im not a terrorist, threat to homeland security, escaped convict or menace to society im a truck driver who didnt fill out the right forms in time.

Immaterial to this discussion, although that's nice to know.

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

No conspiracy theory here sorry Leaving the country for a little while really isnt that big a deal guys , there is more to life than the 52 states

When did ANYONE--least of all ME--suggest a conspiracy theory, sir? Let alone any sinister aspect such as being an escaped convict or menace to society? You forgetting to fill out forms isn't what set off this rant.

Originally Posted by The-UK-Guy

what the hell happend to a freind in need ? It would be hard for my wife and kids to adjust to the way of life back home, If they would willingly go I would be out of here in a second. I asked for help , if any one can help me out I would really appreciate it. You are supposed to help people just to help them you shouldnt require a reason or alterier motive to help for helps sake!

Hey....GLAD to help a friend in need. When that FRIEND admits to taking advantage of the country that has protected him with fair laws and regulation, provided him freedoms not found ANYWHERE else in the world AND molded him into the person he is today, refuses to become a CITIZEN of that country despite the opportunity AND yearns for the OLD COUNTRY, I say its time to go back to the Old Country. And there's nothing wrong with that. I saw a number once of the people that come over here from Europe and decide they don't like and return to Europe. Its not a bad thing. Just lose the attitude. -Rocky