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05-04-2008, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tieguy Some people need to play games to feel superior. ... | From the Grand PooPaw of game playing.....
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05-04-2008, 05:16 AM
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Rep Power: 6274 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" I don't chase after new CMs to make myself known or suck up but do smile, nod and make eye contact when passing them in the building.
These are human beings who probably feel some discomfort at being thrown into a new building with the task of maintaining some sort of order and producing numbers for the bigwigs.
I feel that disregarding them is rude and hurtful and that this behavior would bite me in the butt some day when I need their cooperation. |
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05-04-2008, 07:11 AM
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Rep Power: 12720 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" I'm a pretty jovial, happy go lucky kind of guy most of the time. I usually speak to everyone I pass in the building. It's not kissing up, I don't do it for them as much as I do for me, it makes me feel good.
There is one PT sup that works the preload, many times I have passed him and spoke...nothing, not one word. That kind of pisses me off, so one day this past week the same thing happened. As he got past me without returning the "good morning", I turned ans said. " speak ass, mouth won't." he never even broke stride.
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05-04-2008, 07:24 AM
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Rep Power: 7538 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" If giving the "silent treatment" to a new management person is you claim to fame at UPS, surely, you have something more mature to share with us.
Do you really think you are unique in your approach? I've seen and worked with many drivers over the years in my career, and quite frankly, the word regarding this type of behavior is usually passed on by the previous management person.
A new management person to your center/operations has enough to learn about their operation and employees, that one empoyee, using the "silent treatment' is really
no big deal.
But if your approach works for you and makes you feel good about yourself, thanks for sharing. |
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05-04-2008, 08:15 AM
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#30 | | I live dilbert
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Originally Posted by trplnkl From the Grand PooPaw of game playing.....  | your visions clouded by the tumbleweeds blowing around.
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05-04-2008, 08:20 AM
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#31 | | I live dilbert
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Originally Posted by soberups Some people choose to feel superior by doing their job the right way without their management team having to micromanage them.  | Good answer. Guess you and I would have problems. I personally believe I should make eye contact with and say hi to everyone I see thats part of the brown family.
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05-04-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tieguy your visions clouded by the tumbleweeds blowing around. | Is that really a comment? or a question? It's way too early in the year for tumbleweeds to be blowing, they've just started growin'. Now dirt blowin' Yep. And this is a relatively calm day
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Rep Power: 3427 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" I don't go out of my way to introduce myself to new managers or supervisors in my jobs. When I was with UPS, I stayed the h*ll under the radar, particularly when a well-respected supe was moved and replaced by a loud, intimidating supe. I think I went three weeks before I was sorting and he screamed my name, telling me to move a diverter. I looked at him, amused that he'd finally said my name. At a retail job, I was usually introduced to new managers the first day we were in the building together. At a restaurant job, we weren't even introduced. The existing management told the guy who I was, what a great job I did, etc, etc. He came over to my workstation and started chatting me up. I was amused and exchanged amused looks with a coworker scurrying around behind him. The silent treatment only works so long before someone tells him who you are. -Rocky
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05-04-2008, 11:35 AM
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Rep Power: 7256 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" Non sequitor (sp?) Just saw a bunch of tumbleweed blowing along Interstate 5 heading north of Kettleman. Maybe left over from last year or maybe they grow year round here in Cali. When I was a kid my grandparents brought us kids back some tumbleweed from out west and we were the hit in the neighborhood! |
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05-04-2008, 01:12 PM
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#35 | | Bitingthe Hand that Feeds
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Originally Posted by tieguy Good answer. Guess you and I would have problems. I personally believe I should make eye contact with and say hi to everyone I see thats part of the brown family. | You and I would get along just fine. I think you would come to appreciate the amount of time and work I would save you.
Ive heard management people refer to the "80/20" rule, where 20% of the people take up 80% of your time and vice versa.
I like to take it a step further. I want to be part of the 1% of your people that take up .000000001% of your time.
I am often critical of management, particularly upper level, but I am also aware of the stress and the workload you guys deal with. I prefer not to be a source of that stress or workload as much as possible.
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Originally Posted by dillweed
I feel that disregarding them is rude and hurtful and that this behavior would bite me in the butt some day when I need their cooperation. | I dont disregard them. I smile and wave every day. I respond in the affirmative to any requests made. I just stay quiet. A closed mouth gathers no foot.
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05-04-2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by soberups I dont disregard them. I smile and wave every day. I respond in the affirmative to any requests made. I just stay quiet. A closed mouth gathers no foot. | OK so you just don't go up and start bitchin' and braggin'
That's cool. |
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05-04-2008, 02:05 PM
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Rep Power: 5772 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" I guess I'll be the first to admit that I play this game as well. I have made it a couple months without talking to a CM. I went through 3 whole DM without ever talking to them. that was over a 3 year cycle and is still going. I had a On-car one time for about 6 months that the only time I ever talked to him was when he was on the way out the door one of the last days he was there.
Sometimes it's just nice to be not known.
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Originally Posted by helenofcalifornia Non sequitor (sp?) Just saw a bunch of tumbleweed blowing along Interstate 5 heading north of Kettleman. Maybe left over from last year or maybe they grow year round here in Cali. When I was a kid my grandparents brought us kids back some tumbleweed from out west and we were the hit in the neighborhood! | LOL, yeah we have some stragglers also. I was mainly  at Tieguy.
Helen, have you ever seen a Devil's Claw? they are quite wicked looking.
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Rep Power: 19719 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" Trplnkl, I spent 4 years at Reese AFB in Lubbock; in fact, both of my kids were born at Lubbock General Hospital. I didn't mind the tumbleweeds so much as the dust storms and, of course, the tornadoes, which just seemed to love trailer parks. I can recall one time we were downtown having dinner and this dust storm blew through and we could not see our car, which was parked just across the street. I had also heard about car dealerships having to have "hail sales" but thought it was a myth until I went through our first hail storm and saw the damage that hail can cause. I really enjoyed Texas--we visited Dallas (watched a Cowboys game), San Antonio and other parts of the state.
Sorry for the tangent--the tumbleweeds comment(s) made me think of the time that I spent there.
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer I really enjoyed Texas--we visited Dallas (watched a Cowboys game), San Antonio and other parts of the state.
Sorry for the tangent--the tumbleweeds comment(s) made me think of the time that I spent there. | Not a tangent, Upstate. A lot of the Yanks visiting the Great State of Texas can't wait to get out. I was born just outside Dallas. I've visited a couple times (that I can remember since we left when I was a toddler and visited several times in the years following the move). Home.....there's no place quite like it. I visited Houston almost 2 years ago and it was close but it wasn't home. Visited Dallas a year ago for a wedding, exited the Boeing 737 I arrived on, took a deep breath and realized, "I'm HOME!"
Austin's nice but I haven't explored it like I have Houston and Dallas. I like Dallas, can't stand Houston. San Antone is on my list, probably a long weekend in the Fall of '08 or Winter '09. -Rocky
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Rep Power: 19188 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" Rocky....that's a good reason why I hate going 'home' to Ohio. When we used to take a big whiff in Akron, you got the smell of rubber being made......ick!! If you were lucky, the Quaker Oats Co. was operating and the smell was like freshly popped popcorn. They are no longer there, but the huge grain silos are now condos.
The best smell in Akron is at the Interstate Baking Co.........where they distribute Hostess products......smells of baked bread.
I figure if I live in CA., where the weather is great and there's lots to do, the relatives can come here. I have no desire to see Ohio.....ever again.
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Originally Posted by moreluck I figure if I live in CA., where the weather is great and there's lots to do, the relatives can come here. I have no desire to see Ohio.....ever again. | More, I hear ya on the Rust Belt. My family lives in Illinois. I stood my ground on not going home last Summer to visit. The allergies in the northern Midwest almost kill me. Guess what? My mother and a couple of my siblings boarded an aircraft destined Denver. I feel the same way about relatives: they can come to ME in a beautiful place where there's plenty to do. My mother commented on the beauty of the central Rockies while she was here, saying, "I can see why you love it here." I have two young godchildren--aged 8 and 5 respectively--and the oldest one will start a frequent flier account in the next 12-18 months. He doesn't know it yet but he's going to get to know Chicago's O'Hare International Airport and airports in a couple American cities in the next five years. I doubt he'll complain. He's a curious fella  . Besides....what little boy doesn't want to visit somebody that spoils him?? We're doing a sort of 'dry-run' for my graduation in a couple weeks, only he's flying with somebody (a brother younger than me). If things go well, I might offer him a ticket to visit me where ever I wind up in the Fall. -Rocky
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Rep Power: 1429 | Re: Give your new manager the "silent treatment" Im a preloader, we got a new center manager 5 months ago and I have yet to speak to her or have her speak to me. There I win!!!!!!!!!!!! | | |