Give your new manager the "silent treatment"

Forty6and2 · 05-05-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyRogue

More, I hear ya on the Rust Belt. My family lives in Illinois. I stood my ground on not going home last Summer to visit.

Were you originally from Illinois? That's where I'm from. Now I'm in beautiful Phoenix and I have absolutely no desire to go back to the midwest for ANYTHING. I always use the excuse...."sorry guys ups took away all my vacation when I went cover driving."

I like the idea of giving the manager the "silent treatment." I was on disability for three months at the end of 2007/beginning of 2008 and during that time we switched out a CM and a DM. Neither of which I have spoken to since I came back in mid March.

moreluck · 05-05-2008, 02:13 PM

You know, we really have to keep the secret about things west of the Mississippi or they'll all want to come. Shhhhhhh!!

Forty6and2 · 05-05-2008, 02:25 PM

more-
they already are coming here in droves anyway!

rod · 05-05-2008, 03:31 PM

I thought everything west of the Mississippi was due to fall into the ocean any time now. At least California anyway (the land of fruits and nuts)

browniehound · 05-05-2008, 05:09 PM

Sober,
You're nuts! No, just kidding. While I find it a little odd you're entitled to do as you please. If you're the driver you claim to be, I'm sure the management team is fine with you approach.

But my question is, how do you accomplish this? First of all, at my center I have the same sup. and CM. I had eight years ago. They have been rotated through but were always replaced with people I know and know we are back to the team I had when I first started.

Secondly, don't they call on you to recite the 5 seeing habits, 10-pt. commentary, etc? I can't go a week without me being called out at the PCM to do this.

browniehound · 05-05-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tieguy

Good answer.

Guess you and I would have problems. I personally believe I should make eye contact with and say hi to everyone I see thats part of the brown family.

Sounds corney Tie (the brown family, lol) , but I have to agree with you. I can't walk past a person in the building without saying "hi". It doesn't matter your position, I just greet the person. I find it akward when the other person (hourly or managenment) won't look me in the eye and say "hi".

browniehound · 05-05-2008, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

Back in 2000 - It took me 2 days to hit every area in my operation and introduce myself to them. The longest I have ever gone before meeting an employee was 4 days. It was a satellite center I managed out in the Mojave desert (Barstow).

I would never give you the opportunity to dodge me for 6 weeks! Sorry!

I have always felt that your people are your operation - what better way to get to know your operation than to get to know your people!

Barstow UPSLifer? The only reason I know where Barstow is, is because I made the ride from So. Cal. to Vegas about 4 times.

Man, that is in the middle of no-where. My perception was desert, Barstow, then more desert for miles. How do you run a center out there? I'm guessing the driver can only do about 3 stops an hour since there is nothing but rocks and tumbleweed for tens of miles.

If you can, please respond because I'm curious to know what our drivers do out there. Thanks in advance,

Brownie

moreluck · 05-05-2008, 06:11 PM

Barstow is bustling compared to what it used to be. It's one of the largest Railroad yards in the country. There's also an outlet mall. Catering to the tourists is Barstow Outlet and Tanger Outlet Center which together boasts more than 100 outlet stores now and tons of restaurants. .....and that's just one exit on the I-15. I think Walmart has a huge distribution center out there too.

The very first Del Taco is located there.
Barstow is home to Marine Corps Logistics Base

To me it's still a restroom stop on the way to Vegas.

brownmonster · 05-05-2008, 06:36 PM

"A closed mouth gathers no foot" Sober, that's beautiful wisdom.

UPS Lifer · 05-05-2008, 06:36 PM

When I had it the Outlet Mall was there. I even paid a visit to the General Mgr because they had an issue with the driver.

There is a supervisor who is responsible for the center but really everything is done by the drivers. There is a lead driver who handles everything. It is a pretty sweet deal! He gets paid to dispatch and take care of any concerns and gets a reduced load between 4-6 hours and gets paid for the office time. Maybe this is why I believe in teamwork. The drivers do take care of each other. Satellite centers are old school. It was a pleasure to work with these folks!

There is around 12 drivers that handle that area and about 3 who deliver the "desert". they average 40 to 60 stops out in the middle of nowhere. Some of the other drivers deliver some resi and business and may have a few desert stops that take them from 10-30 miles into the desert. The whole center averaged around 12.9 SPORH and was just a little under-allowed. Victorville is the main center and Barstow builds a reload to Victorville in the PM and the air shuttle leaves there at 17:30 for Victorville. Barstow is approx an hour from Victorville. In the am the shuttle leaves Ontario drops air in Victorville and continues to Barstow and delivers some of the air.

The center is 2 mobile buildings and is located off the I 40. So if you go to Vegas, you won't see it. But if you head to Laughlin where the London Bridge is....then you pass right by it. It is off the same exit as the Marine Logistics Base is. Blink hard and you pass right by!

soberups · 05-05-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browniehound

Secondly, don't they call on you to recite the 5 seeing habits, 10-pt. commentary, etc? I can't go a week without me being called out at the PCM to do this.

They figured out a long time ago that calling on me would get them nothing but a blank stare. I'm not a parakeet. Usually, one of our Safety Committee brown-nosers will holler out the commentary on cue and spare the rest of us the hassle.

soberups · 05-05-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPS Lifer

I would never give you the opportunity to dodge me for 6 weeks! Sorry!
I have always felt that your people are your operation - what better way to get to know your operation than to get to know your people!

Our center has about 70 drivers, with a center manager and 2 on-car sups who work 60-70 hrs a week. I am amazed that they can even remember anybodys name, let alone what route they run. Its pretty easy to dodge a new manager around here, especially when you are a professional who doesnt leave a paper trail of screwups and accidents.

RockyRogue · 05-05-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forty6and2

Were you originally from Illinois? That's where I'm from. Now I'm in beautiful Phoenix and I have absolutely no desire to go back to the midwest for ANYTHING.

No, I'm a southern boy. My father took what I think he once called a 'contract transfer' (he'd be there 2 years) and they'd bring him back to the South. Twenty plus years later, he's still there. I talked to him about leaving the Midwest a couple weeks ago. I pulled the phone away from my ear because he was so p*ssed about being stuck where he is. Ball and chain much...?

(I'm sure I'll pay for this).

I'm in beautiful Denver, Colorado. I wouldn't go back to the Midwest for anything other than a job. I'm actively looking for a job but I'm not targeting the Midwest. I've applied for a couple jobs in your neighbor (the Land of Enchantment). In fact, I was asked to call the recruiter on Thursday. :::shrugs:::. We'll see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forty6and2

more-
they already are coming here in droves anyway!

Yes, they are! But its slowed down from earlier this decade. Five years ago, I couldn't turn around in Denver without seeing an Illinois, Texas or California tag. I still see the three of them but now its once or twice a month and mostly near the interstate (where they belong!). -Rocky

RockyRogue · 05-05-2008, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myback

it appears there are some people on this site who are no longer employed at ups. why would somebody who no longer works at ups spend time on browncafe, what's the connection?

I'm one of the people you're referring to. I miss the people I worked with and enjoy the banter on this board. I didn't think this was a problem....-Rocky

feeder53 · 05-06-2008, 08:34 AM

I believe that these people adopted UPS and feel like they belong to a unique group and I believe they do too. It is a good forum to keep up to date on UPS and its people.

ImpactedTSG · 05-06-2008, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myback

it appears there are some people on this site who are no longer employed at ups. why would somebody who no longer works at ups spend time on browncafe, what's the connection?

1. It's a public forum
2. I still have stock in the company so I like to keep up with what's going on so I know if I should keep it or dump it.
3. I have a deep desire to see the misery of people that are still with UPS to make me feel better about getting downsized from there.

4. It's fun to be an anti-union republican in a mostly democratic union forum. It makes for interesting debate and gives me a different perspective.
5. Since I don't have that much stock to make a huge difference, I enjoy seeing how the micro management is ruining the morale of a great number of employees.
6. I like to keep up with what is going on in TSG so I can see how much fun I am missing out on with PMT, HDFS, paint by number install guides, etc.

UPS Lifer · 05-06-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soberups

Our center has about 70 drivers, with a center manager and 2 on-car sups who work 60-70 hrs a week. I am amazed that they can even remember anybodys name, let alone what route they run. Its pretty easy to dodge a new manager around here, especially when you are a professional who doesnt leave a paper trail of screwups and accidents.

The way a manager does this is:

You call a special PCM with just the utility drivers. All you do is tell them about you and introduce yourself.

Then you get up on the belts - boxline - or slide and meet the driver at his/her package car.

In the PM you hang around where the drivers check-in or close to the DIAD room or area. You keep a DDR with you so that you can check off who you met.

I actually took pictures with a Polaroid camera of drivers and in one operation - just the supervisors. I had 35 supervisors reporting to me.

The more you get out of the office.... the more you learn and the better you can help and do the job. As you know the paper and computer does not tell the whole story. You need contact with your people. You need to develop relationships and create an atmosphere of trust if you are going to accomplish anything worthwhile.

There is a honeymoon period for every new sup or mgr. Use this opportunity to ask for forgiveness because you were not on a conference call and out in the operation learning about it and your people.

brownmonster · 05-06-2008, 08:26 PM

I allow new mgmnt a grace peiod before they are required to bow down and kiss the feet of The Brownmonster.

overallowed · 05-11-2008, 09:58 PM

I have a driver sup that I absolutely HATE. I either do not speak unless spoken to, or if I have to answer a question from him, say as little as possible or just shake my head. I think he is on to it by how that I don't care for him. I check my milk carton every morning to see if his picture is on it.