Give your new manager the "silent treatment"

1989 · 05-17-2008, 12:07 PM

[quote=Griff;341077]What's it going to take? Your CM coming out during the PCM and telling everyone to go home and watching the fleet of trucks go out manned by people in suits and black golf shirts?

That's pretty much what I did for a month in '97. What did you do during that month?

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-17-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by trplnkl

I'm not going to grieve a PT sup loading, he/she isn't doing my job. IMO that is the right of the preloader. Now if I wanted to come in early and work on the preload, then I might feel different about it, but I don't. Usually when I feel I would be justified in filing, I assess the situation to figure out what the final out come will be and if it is worth my time and trouble to file. Usually it isn't. This doesn't make me less of a man (rolling eyes) nor a sheep (baa, baaa, baaa) but someone that picks battles personally worth fighting.

Other than that, I don't have anything else to say.

yet.

Nothing else need to be said--you basically covered the subject in one paragraph.

satellitedriver · 05-17-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

It's more of a telling tale that I'm actually telling the truth on these boards. I'm loved by some and hated by most. That's the case in my center and certainly the case here. The feedback I get on this site is very, very predictable.

Yes, it is predictable.
You seem to love to be hated and encourage that behavior.
No therapy needed on your part.
An old adage comes to mind:
"When one person calls you a horses ass, ignore them.
"When five people call you a horses ass, it is time to go shopping for a saddle."

UPS Lifer · 05-17-2008, 08:41 PM

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Yes, it is predictable.
You seem to love to be hated and encourage that behavior.
No therapy needed on your part.
An old adage comes to mind:
"When one person calls you a horses ass, ignore them.
"When five people call you a horses ass, it is time to go shopping for a saddle."

LOL!

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-18-2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

That's pretty much what I did for a month in '97. What did you do during that month?

We were only out of work for 2 weeks and I worked construction for 10 days. As much as I would have liked to have been out there supporting my co-workers there is this little thing called bills and child support that had greater importance for me at that time. My first week I worked 46 hours for a grand total of $253, of which $250 was supposed to go to child support but my ex was kind enough to hand me back $100. This was the hardest 46 hours of work that I had done in quite a long time and it truly made me appreciate UPS. The supervisor on the construction crew jokingly asked me how much I would have made if I had worked 46 hours at UPS and my reply floored him. We received one strike check of $55 which the union basically took back in the form of union dues when we got our first checks after coming back to work.

1989 · 05-18-2008, 07:49 AM

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We were only out of work for 2 weeks and I worked construction for 10 days. As much as I would have liked to have been out there supporting my co-workers there is this little thing called bills and child support that had greater importance for me at that time. My first week I worked 46 hours for a grand total of $253, of which $250 was supposed to go to child support but my ex was kind enough to hand me back $100. This was the hardest 46 hours of work that I had done in quite a long time and it truly made me appreciate UPS. The supervisor on the construction crew jokingly asked me how much I would have made if I had worked 46 hours at UPS and my reply floored him. We received one strike check of $55 which the union basically took back in the form of union dues when we got our first checks after coming back to work.

Wow upstate you had a bad week back then...I got a raise during the strike. 300 bux a week for 3 or 4 weeks. Plus I worked one day at now DHL for another 10 bux an hour.

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-18-2008, 04:27 PM

Back then we didn't have any temp work businesses in our town (Labor Ready?) so there were not a whole lot of options; besides, it did me a lot of good to work that hard so that I would appreciate my job more so when I got back.

rod · 05-18-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Back then we didn't have any temp work businesses in our town (Labor Ready?) so there were not a whole lot of options; besides, it did me a lot of good to work that hard so that I would appreciate my job more so when I got back.

I doubt you been appreciated at anytime in your life- by anyone

springrubber · 05-22-2008, 02:32 PM

I do the same because everytime I speak to a suit (other than my onroad) they are always bitching about my sideburns!

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-22-2008, 02:33 PM

Do they call you Elvis?!

springrubber · 05-22-2008, 03:27 PM

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Do they call you Elvis?!

LOL yeah, but with sarcasm.

trplnkl · 05-23-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by springrubber

LOL yeah, but with sarcasm.

Just smile and say " Thank you, thank you very much"

trplnkl · 05-23-2008, 04:04 AM

I was on the picket line everyday during the strike. Got to watch the sups and a few non union PTers going out in full package cars and return in full package cars. LOL, some of the other strikers would follow the sups to restaurants and such and never saw one delivery attempt. The sups would also move trailers on and off the doors to make it look like we were getting volume moved in and out of the center. Every morning feeder sups would show up with the same trailers they left in the night before. I suppose management really thought we were that stupid, but forgot that we could at least read numbers on the trailers.
We received a strike fund check of $55 also, I gave mine back as I was on comp at the time and never missed a LibMut check.

BSUUPS · 05-25-2008, 09:10 AM

You are in fact doint the new manager a favor...I have been assigned 3 centers (each one a clean up job) since being a center manager - I will always assess where and who needs attention first. I always appreciate those that "get it" - solid methods, understand their job, and don't present "self-driven issues"...In my last center I spent 18 months and maybe said 2 words to a driver that had gone 30 years without and injury accident. Never had service issues and his customers loved him, If a topic was brought up in a PCM he employed it....What's a snot nosed new manager gonna say to him anyway???...I think he was fine with me personally, but prefered doing his own thing - I respect under the radar drivers - I wish I had 60 drivers that came in did their jobs and punched out..."giving me the silent treatment". WHAT A DREAM

UPS Lifer · 05-25-2008, 09:29 AM

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You are in fact doint the new manager a favor...I have been assigned 3 centers (each one a clean up job) since being a center manager - I will always assess where and who needs attention first. I always appreciate those that "get it" - solid methods, understand their job, and don't present "self-driven issues"...In my last center I spent 18 months and maybe said 2 words to a driver that had gone 30 years without and injury accident. Never had service issues and his customers loved him, If a topic was brought up in a PCM he employed it....What's a snot nosed new manager gonna say to him anyway???...I think he was fine with me personally, but prefered doing his own thing - I respect under the radar drivers - I wish I had 60 drivers that came in did their jobs and punched out..."giving me the silent treatment". WHAT A DREAM

This is where you and I differ! Once I realized what type of driver he was I would have walked up to him and let him know how I felt. Everyone needs encouragement especially the drivers that go out there everyday and make your job easier.

I always found this the best part of being a manager. Your day is filled with nothing but the negative. Go out there and make lemonade out of lemon juice. I challenge you to start that on Tuesday!

diesel96 · 05-25-2008, 10:03 AM

This is where you and I differ Lifer....If I'm "under the radar" and have no service failures, performance or safety issues, just leave me alone.(unless you want to ride motorcycles on the weekend or have a beer after work) If most can "self manage" themselves don't jinx them by talking to them. Using a baseball analogy, sort of like a pitcher hurling a no hitter. Nobody, and I mean nobody sits next to him or talks to him during his streak. That goes for players and managers. So be glad of the "under the radar drivers" and don't concern yourself with them, cause there is other fish to fry. JMPO

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[You are in fact doint the new manager a favor...I have been assigned 3 centers (each one a clean up job) since being a center manager -

BSUUPS= Victor "The Cleaner" (Harvey Keitel) Pulp Fiction and The Point of No Return. Leave the siliencer and acid at home...no wonder know wants to talk to you....lol

UPS Lifer · 05-26-2008, 08:54 AM

diesel,
This is what communication is all about. If I came up to you and thanked you for the job you do and you told me not to bother you than I would not bother you. I would probably say OK, just remember that I really do appreciate your effort.

I had a driver actually tell me that he feared the recognition process and to never mention him or give him an award in front of the group. He was the senior driver in the center. I respected his wishes. Even though other drivers wondered why I didn't recognize him during important milestones.

I would go to him with no one around and let him know how I felt. He was OK with that.

If we didn't communicate, I would not know that and could not treat him the way he wanted to be treated. So I still disagree! It is the mark of a poor manager not to get to know his/her people. !!!!

dillweed · 05-26-2008, 10:31 AM

I certainly like to stay off the radar and wouldn't even think of complaining or kissing up to a new CM. Any info I need to convey goes to my immediate sup and if they don't act, the chips fall where they may.

If the CM gets involved and my butt's covered. Seems to work pretty well at my center.

UpstateNYUPSer · 05-27-2008, 05:32 PM

I still don't see the problem with simply walking up to him/her, introducing yourself, welcoming him/her to the center, if you choose, and then going on your way. It's called common courtesy.

toonertoo · 05-28-2008, 03:43 AM

I wait until all the suckups air all their grievances with the new cm, like it will really make a diifference. Then I introduce myself at a later day, to the new guy/girl Its welcome by that time. As I wont whine, or carry on as some drivers will, just simply "welcome" . From then on, I stay under the radar, other than being constantly over, Im on no other reports. So they at present pretty much leave me alone. Not so in the past, but at present, but could change any time. I try to talk to my sup about problems, but they cant/wont/dont understand the problems, so lately I just save my breathe for my 11 hr beating. And take long weekends.