Big Brown wins/Fred Smith cries

IWorkAsDirected · 05-04-2008, 08:41 AM

I had to get online first thing this morning and find pictures to copy of the horse with the jockey and ups logo.

My dad lived for his horses, he died 3 years ago and this photo will go alongside his. He said if there weren't horses in heave he didn't want to go, I'm sure he's there now enjoying all those steeds who went on before him.

He also had a horse break a leg in a race and I found him crying at the stables after it was put down.

Horse racing was his life, all that kept him alive his last 20 years. So this is a small way to connect the two of us, he was always proud that his daughter was a ups driver.

Diegotron · 05-04-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

I would like to see them get rid of boxing and ultimate fighting first, where the humans get killed or dopey for life.

If they did that then they'd have to get rid of 80 percent of sports I think. No one forces them to fight like no one forces you to drive a car that you might get killed in. As someone said before, don't like it don't watch it.

mikestrek · 05-04-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dragracer66

Parcel should stick with horse racing. They got more exposure in one race than they did with Jarret for all those years!!!!

I would have to agree.

tieguy · 05-04-2008, 09:42 AM

[quote=trickpony1;335437]The fact that the winner of todays Kentucky Derby was a horse that had a name that could remotely be associated with a big, and sometimes obnoxious, big business is overshadowed only by the fact that an animal lost its life feeding the greed of mankind.
It is the nature of the horse to be free,to run, to roam. Man has figured out a way to capitalize on the truly free spirit of the horse.
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Reality check. This is why I love Trickpony because he is great at making assumptions and making a fool of himself.

In this case tragically the horse broke its legs after the race not while feeding the greed of mankind.

Its an accident that could have happened at any time prior to or after the race.

If it had happened while she was roaming and free like trick wants then in reality she would have layed there suffering in extreme pain until some wild animal came along and put her out of her misery.

The problem with you pita nuts that speak this wild and free talk is you don't realize how much more animals suffer when they live wild and free.

trickpony1 · 05-04-2008, 11:24 AM

Tieguy-
You're right. You are always right.
Human professional sports players know what they are getting into. Animals do not.
I'm against horse racing. Perhaps you can show me where, in nature, packs of 20 horses run at full sprint, in tight formation for 2-2.5 minutes.
I'm against greyhound racing (if a dog doesn't perform it is killed or impounded for life.) Why do you think there are greyhound rescue organizations?
I'm against bull fighting for obvious reason but, for you, I will explain. Let me thrust sharp barbed "spears" into your back every time you react to a visual stimuli (red cape) until you bleed to death.
I'm against bull riding for obvious reasons but, once again, for you I will explain. Let me tie a rope around your groin area real tight and see if you don't buck.

In nature, as you suggest, I'm sure there are animals that become disabled and are devoured by predators but at least they didn't live the life that the racehorse, greyhound, bull and other "entertainment animals" lived prior to their demise.

I am in favor of the "running of the bulls" in Spain. I delight every time one of the ignorant asses gets run over or gored by the bull. Vengence can be sweet.

While we are here help me understand something........
There was a guy that owned a racehorse.
One morning, over breakfast, he just up and decided that he would name his horse "Big Brown" IN HONOR of UPS.
How many of us do you think are stupid enough to believe there wasn't an incentive like money slid under the table.?

helenofcalifornia · 05-04-2008, 11:27 AM

Didn't Big Brown buck the jockey off when it saw Eight Belles go down?

tieguy · 05-04-2008, 01:18 PM

[quote=trickpony1;335786]Tieguy-
I'm against horse racing. Perhaps you can show me where, in nature, packs of 20 horses run at full sprint, in tight formation for 2-2.5 minutes.

You're kidding right. They do it in the wild all the time.

I'm against greyhound racing (if a dog doesn't perform it is killed or impounded for life.) Why do you think there are greyhound rescue organizations?

good for you I don't believe I defended the slaughter of greyhounds but go ahead and share with me your other aversions.

I'm against bull fighting for obvious reason but, for you, I will explain. Let me thrust sharp barbed "spears" into your back every time you react to a visual stimuli (red cape) until you bleed to death.

Also good to know. Don't believe it addresses the original point you responded to.

I'm against bull riding for obvious reasons but, once again, for you I will explain. Let me tie a rope around your groin area real tight and see if you don't buck.

Excellent good to know. If I ever need an advocate against bull riding I'll be sure and look you up.

In nature, as you suggest, I'm sure there are animals that become disabled and are devoured by predators but at least they didn't live the life that the racehorse, greyhound, bull and other "entertainment animals" lived prior to their demise.

Nor did they lead the pampered life that this horse did prior to her unfortunatate demise. Proceed.

I am in favor of the "running of the bulls" in Spain. I delight every time one of the ignorant asses gets run over or gored by the bull. Vengence can be sweet.

Interesting. I hope you don't take your enjoyment sexually.

While we are here help me understand something........
There was a guy that owned a racehorse.
One morning, over breakfast, he just up and decided that he would name his horse "Big Brown" IN HONOR of UPS.
How many of us do you think are stupid enough to believe there wasn't an incentive like money slid under the table.?

Ignorance sweet sweet ignorance. So you're saying everyone knew this horse would be undefeated going into the derby when the owner bought it and named it last year or the year before? Okie dokie. trick you got me interested now. Its a stretch there buddy but go ahead and try to make your case.

Dutch Dawg · 05-04-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by trickpony1

.....is overshadowed only by the fact that an animal lost its life feeding the greed of mankind.
It is the nature of the horse to be free,to run, to roam. Man has figured out a way to capitalize on the truly free spirit of the horse.....I hope all that bet and won on todays horse race slowly suffocate on their greed. Go ahead and negative rep me....I don't care.

Trick, you seem to have a pretty head strong opinion on this topic. I was ready to ask if you've ever had a horses, but caught myself; believeing that someone of your mind would never allow themselves to place any animal in such a degrading position.

So what do you use as a reference as to what's best for an animal that you've probably never owned, ridden, or cared for?

While bears have not been mentioned in this thread, would it be fair of me to say you probably support the concept of a bear eating a man, but not of a man eating a bear?

soberups · 05-04-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trickpony1

I'm against bull fighting for obvious reason but, for you, I will explain. Let me thrust sharp barbed "spears" into your back every time you react to a visual stimuli (red cape) until you bleed to death.
I'm against bull riding for obvious reasons but, once again, for you I will explain. Let me tie a rope around your groin area real tight and see if you don't buck.

My only problem with bullfighting and bull riding is that the odds arent fair.
Bullfighting would be a lot more entertaining if they took away the matadors cape. The bull should also have straight razors attached to its horns. There also neds to be a time limit...if the matador fails to kill the bull within 10 minutes, then a second bull gets released into the arena to help the first one out.

covemaster · 05-04-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 25yrvet

The ivory towers could come up with a new direction for their commercials. Loose the dude drawing on the white board and incorporate the horse into the ads.
Wouldn't it be cool to have a pic of the horse on our feeder trailers??

no horses on feeders please

Cementups · 05-04-2008, 02:09 PM

I never made it to the OTB and am a little upset that I didn't. Ihad BB to win and EB with the Exacta. I was planning on $10 on the win and $5 ($10) on the exacta. It would have paid out about $450 for me. Damnit.

trickpony1 · 05-04-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch Dawg

While bears have not been mentioned in this thread, would it be fair of me to say you probably support the concept of a bear eating a man, but not of a man eating a bear?

I didn't know there was a big market for bear meat.
I would be in favor of giving the bears the same high-powered hunting rifles the hunters use. It would even the playing field, don't you think?

tieguy · 05-04-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by trickpony1

I didn't know there was a big market for bear meat.
I would be in favor of giving the bears the same high-powered hunting rifles the hunters use. It would even the playing field, don't you think?

Trick i take it you're a strict vegetarian? How do you feel about the concept that plants may actually feel pain?

Diegotron · 05-04-2008, 02:56 PM

Tieguy.......<3

satellitedriver · 05-04-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by trickpony1

How many of us do you think are stupid enough to believe there wasn't an incentive like money slid under the table.?

Only one person comes to mind.

trickpony1 · 05-04-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by satellitedriver

Only one person comes to mind.

I hope that one day I may be as almighty and smart as you.

satellitedriver · 05-04-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by trickpony1

I hope that one day I may be as almighty and smart as you.

From my lips to the ears of God, may your prayer be answered.

rod · 05-04-2008, 06:34 PM

Bear roast is excellant. We did one on a Weber grill during the last strike along with grouse, venison and walleye. Ummmmmm-delicious.

Dutch Dawg · 05-05-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by trickpony1

I didn't know there was a big market for bear meat.
I would be in favor of giving the bears the same high-powered hunting rifles the hunters use. It would even the playing field, don't you think?

Pshaw.....and here I thought the rifle was leveling the playing field. If man gave up the rifle in his quest for bear. Do you think the bears could be compelled to relinquish their claws, ivories, strength, speed and size? I didn't think so....

Jack4343 · 05-05-2008, 06:42 PM

The problem I have with PETA and their followers is the amount of hatred they spew towards mankind. It must be really painful looking in the mirror everyday and realizing you are a part of the human race with all the God-awful tradegys we commit every single day. Me, I sleep well at night and I'm proud of people as a whole. The one simple thing that PETA followers don't understand is this....Animals and Humans are NOT equals! We are the top of the food chain and as such we dictate how other living things on this earth exist. There will be no leveling of the playing field. If bears want to level the field, let them develop a brain smart enough to find a way to defeat us. Most PETA followers are young liberal tree hugging urban hippies that probably don't know the first thing about these animals or how they live. "Oh, don't hurt the defenseless little bunny!" Let me tell you (and I've never hunted or shot a gun in my life), if I was starving and my family needed food to eat, I'd trap that bunny, grab it by it's legs and beat it's precious little head in so I could provide food for the ones I care for.