Big Brown wins/Fred Smith cries

[myback]

well i guess being a pony yourself, you have some reservations about horse racing.

[Average at Best]

Originally Posted by Jack4343

The one simple thing that PETA followers don't understand is this....Animals and Humans are NOT equals! We are the top of the food chain and as such we dictate how other living things on this earth exist. There will be no leveling of the playing field. If bears want to level the field, let them develop a brain smart enough to find a way to defeat us. Most PETA followers are young liberal tree hugging urban hippies that probably don't know the first thing about these animals or how they live. "Oh, don't hurt the defenseless little bunny!" Let me tell you (and I've never hunted or shot a gun in my life), if I was starving and my family needed food to eat, I'd trap that bunny, grab it by it's legs and beat it's precious little head in so I could provide food for the ones I care for.

I'm a PETA follower, and I'm not an urban tree-hugger, and I hate hippies (they need haircuts). I don't agree with everything that PETA says and does. I am on their email list and some of the stuff they send out is absolutely nuts, I'll admit. I love me a juicy steak every so often, and just this weekend, I killed a nest of baby rattlers in my yard with a spade. Not neccessarily PETA material, I know.

All the same, I love animals. They are not equal to us, and as the Bible states, we have stewardship over them, but that does not mean we can make them suffer needlessly. Yes, we use them for food. I buy my produce from local farmers, so that I know the cow I am eating is the same one I saw grazing last week, not some worn out heffer that spent its miserable life in a crowded pen. It's healthier for me as well, and I support my local economy. Yes, we use them for cancer research. This does not mean that it's ethical to torture bunnies so that Revlon can make a mascara that is waterproof in a tsunami. Yes, we use them in horse racing. This does not mean that we make them weak through imbreeding, and jeopardize their lives by giving them medication on gameday so that they cannot realize that they are beyond their own physical limit.

I'm not disagreeing with you - I'm just saying that there are levels to us PETA nuts, and that some people are a little more sane about their love of animals. I wouldn't choose the life of an animal over the life of a human (in most cases - depends on the human), but some simple things can be done to treat them a little more humanely.

[JohnnyPension]

Was driving to the golf course in Queen Creek AZ and we actually saw a herd (six) of wild horses running across the road. The local natives say they return to this area every year. An awesome sight.

John

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by Average at Best

I'm a PETA follower, and I'm not an urban tree-hugger, and I hate hippies (they need haircuts). I don't agree with everything that PETA says and does. I am on their email list and some of the stuff they send out is absolutely nuts, I'll admit. I love me a juicy steak every so often, and just this weekend, I killed a nest of baby rattlers in my yard with a spade. Not neccessarily PETA material, I know.

All the same, I love animals. They are not equal to us, and as the Bible states, we have stewardship over them, but that does not mean we can make them suffer needlessly. Yes, we use them for food. I buy my produce from local farmers, so that I know the cow I am eating is the same one I saw grazing last week, not some worn out heffer that spent its miserable life in a crowded pen. It's healthier for me as well, and I support my local economy. Yes, we use them for cancer research. This does not mean that it's ethical to torture bunnies so that Revlon can make a mascara that is waterproof in a tsunami. Yes, we use them in horse racing. This does not mean that we make them weak through imbreeding, and jeopardize their lives by giving them medication on gameday so that they cannot realize that they are beyond their own physical limit.

I'm not disagreeing with you - I'm just saying that there are levels to us PETA nuts, and that some people are a little more sane about their love of animals. I wouldn't choose the life of an animal over the life of a human (in most cases - depends on the human), but some simple things can be done to treat them a little more humanely.

As the old jingle said,
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't"
A rational perspective ( bible excluded) on the treatment of all living things is key.

[soberups]

PETA makes some valid points about the cruelty involved in factory farming, testing of cosmetics on animals, and trapping for fur.
What they dont seem to fully grasp is that nature itself can be a cruel and brutal place even without man involved in it.
I was elk hunting once and saw a pack of coyotes eating a deer. They had torn one of its legs off, but it was still alive...for a few more minutes at least. That is how nature works.
My wife and I arent vegetarians, but we only buy free-range eggs. We dont wear fur. We buy our beef from a local butcher who contracts out to local ranchers. These cattle arent herded into a slaughterhouse or raised on a factory farm, they live a serene, drug and hormone free life out in a pasture. Come slaughtering time, the butcher goes out to the farm in his truck and shoots the cow in the head with a .30-06. No brain, no pain. A person CAN eat meat in an ethical and humane manner despite what PETA might think.

[Average at Best]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

A rational perspective ( bible excluded) on the treatment of all living things is key.

I also enjoy stoning witches and adulterers.

[trickpony1]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

A rational perspective ( bible excluded) on the treatment of all living things is key.

It doesn't surprise me that you would exclude the Bible as being "rational" considering how almighty and smart you are.
Perhaps you can get the Pope to change the language in the Bible to read:

"...the Father, Son and Satellitedriver".

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

It doesn't surprise me that you would exclude the Bible as being "rational" considering how almighty and smart you are.
Perhaps you can get the Pope to change the language in the Bible to read:

"...the Father, Son and Satellitedriver".

That's the best you can come up with, 1Trick.
If you would have noticed, I excluded the bible in parenthesis.
In doing that, I was taking the religious argument out of my sentence.
In your twisted logic you presumed I excluded the Biblical reference as a way to call the Bible irrational and as usual you are incorrect.
You are the one who has deemed me as being almighty and smart.
Wrong, again.
Since you seem to be a biblical scholar, where is the sign of the cross;
"In the name of the Father,
the Son
and the Holy Spirit.
Amen";
mentioned?
If you can provided that info, I would like to see it.
I was taught it was a Catholic construct as an outward sign to show to the world ones faith in Christ.
P.S.
The Pope can not rewrite any part of the Bible.

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by Average at Best

I also enjoy stoning witches and adulterers.

And Jesus said," Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by trickpony1

It doesn't surprise me that you would exclude the Bible as being "rational" considering how almighty and smart you are.
Perhaps you can get the Pope to change the language in the Bible to read:

"...the Father, Son and Satellitedriver".

this is a common trick pony tactic. trying to make you sound like you think you are holier then thou.

[Average at Best]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

And Jesus said," Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Remember what the Bible says: He who is without sin, cast the first rock. And I shall smoketh it.

[wannabeups]

Originally Posted by BigBrownSanta

There were a few symbolic lessons and/or ironies in today's race.

1. As employees, we are (figuratively speaking) whipped and beaten to do our best to win.

2. If you don't win first place, your life's not worth spit.

3. If you get injured, you're gone.

LMAO, what an analogy.