Opt in-Opt out list victory!

[tourists24]

Originally Posted by bigbrownman

Don't have my contract book in front of me, but it basically states that it only covers full time hourly employees. If you are a part timer/TCD you are not subject to protection under article 37 pertaining to excessive over time.

... all drivers are covered if you wish to be,,,, sign the list when one goes up. If you are a part timer planning on covering any time during the near future,,, sign the list

[Griff]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Yeah Griff.....the Division Manager is out following you around. LOL!

What planet are you from again? My god!

That's right, the people who take a stand generally get special attention. In my case nobody can put the nail in the coffin, so they are getting desperate I guess. I'm sorry you wouldn't know anything about these tactics because you're a patsy. Come back and talk to me when you're pushing some real weight up there in New England.

[IDoLessWorkThanMost]

Originally Posted by New Englander

I DO hope you called him/her on it.
There is no difference in the contract based upon bid route driver or bid cover driver.

To even think that there is......lol!

You are thinking New England though and supplement. Yes, our covers in bids (at least in East New England) are full -time drivers. In some areas though, the covers are run differently.

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by browniehound

Ok, but I rarely go over 9.5. If I "opt out" meaning I don't want to work over 9.5, why would I be subjected to a 3-day ride?

If you want to retain the right to file for over 9.5 days, you need to sign the "OPT IN" list. That is saying you want to opt in to the over 9.5 language. " Opt Out" will disqualify you from being able to file.


An YES, Uncle Buster is trying to intimidate you into "opt out" with the threats of 3 day rides and GPS monitoring, yad yada yada. Just do your job as you are contracted to do and all will be fine. TieGuy, you may as well blow that denial smoke somewhere else.

[Forty6and2]

Originally Posted by bigbrownman

Don't have my contract book in front of me, but it basically states that it only covers full time hourly employees. If you are a part timer/TCD you are not subject to protection under article 37 pertaining to excessive over time.

thats o.k. tcds don't need protection. if i am out too late and get in a wreck i'll probably just quit and find another job.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Griff

That's right, the people who take a stand generally get special attention. In my case nobody can put the nail in the coffin, so they are getting desperate I guess. I'm sorry you wouldn't know anything about these tactics because you're a patsy. Come back and talk to me when you're pushing some real weight up there in New England.

Griff....Division Managers do not go out looking to catch drivers doing something wrong. The fact that you need to honestly add that tidbit to your post makes me wonder just how much of what you say is the truth and how much is stretched.

I honestly doubt in real life you act like such a dolt. Well...I honestly hope you don't.

BTW - Do you honestly know what the slang term "patsy" really alludes to? It doesn't fit my online persona lol.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Griff....Division Managers do not go out looking to catch drivers doing something wrong. The fact that you need to honestly add that tidbit to your post makes me wonder just how much of what you say is the truth and how much is stretched.

I honestly doubt in real life you act like such a dolt. Well...I honestly hope you don't.

BTW - Do you honestly know what the slang term "patsy" really alludes to? It doesn't fit my online persona lol.

So you're the official authority on the job description of a division manager now? It's funny that you think a division manager is like a god or something, this makes me think you are a center manager. Do you have your division manager's picture up in your bathroom for your morning routine or what? You sound an awful lot like lieguy and you're admitting that your time here is nothing more than an act (persona) now.

patsy
Main Entry:
pat·sy
Pronunciation:
\ˈpat-sē\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s)plural pat·sies
Etymology:
perhaps from Italian pazzo fool
Date:
1903
: a person who is easily manipulated or victimized : pushover

[govols019]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Griff....Division Managers do not go out looking to catch drivers doing something wrong. T

We had one that would. He was something else. I hate to see anyone lose his job but I was glad to hear that UPS finally fired him.

[browniehound]

Originally Posted by trplnkl

If you want to retain the right to file for over 9.5 days, you need to sign the "OPT IN" list. That is saying you want to opt in to the over 9.5 language. " Opt Out" will disqualify you from being able to file.


An YES, Uncle Buster is trying to intimidate you into "opt out" with the threats of 3 day rides and GPS monitoring, yad yada yada. Just do your job as you are contracted to do and all will be fine. TieGuy, you may as well blow that denial smoke somewhere else.

I'm on the preload "call in" list, meaning if the preload needs help they call full-time drivers in, in seniority order if you wish to be. Depending on the season, on average I get called twice per week with an automatic 11 hours when it happens.

I like working the preload. I like OT when its early and hate it when its late (after 7pm). So I guess, I'm going to "opt out" so I can still get my OT in the AM.

Problem is, with everyone "opting in" will I get a heavier dispatch because I opted out? No difference to me because I get paid by the hour. I have no life and don't mind working OT. If I really need to be somewhere I guess I can ask for 8 hours or bang out sick.

That being said, my personal opinion about the over 9.5 articles is that it really sucks. I think it should either be keep everyone under 9.5 (with exception of course) or dispatch the area of the route as is.

Remember the days when your route was "your route" ? I'd be happy with that even if it meant going over 10 once or twice per week. When it was "our" route there was a lot less headaches.

Now, in the process of trying to even the dispatch we get left with many more problems than what we wanted to fix. More miles driven, more misloads, less efficiency due to a driver not knowing a section he gets on the dispatcher's whim. The worst is when they cut a route and stick a section heavy in businesses is section 8000.

What this means is I now must break off my area to make service on these packages. Where I need to go is 2 miles from my nearest stop. On a map it shows the section is adjacent to my route. Problem is, its adjacent to the end on my route and if I did it last there would be many service failures. I just don't understand why this person is allowed to keep his job. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

[helenofcalifornia]

Slow driver, good luck with that "I don't want to work more than 8 hours a day!" You signed on with the wrong company.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Griff

So you're the official authority on the job description of a division manager now? It's funny that you think a division manager is like a god or something, this makes me think you are a center manager. Do you have your division manager's picture up in your bathroom for your morning routine or what? You sound an awful lot like lieguy and you're admitting that your time here is nothing more than an act (persona) now.

patsy
Main Entry:
pat·sy
Pronunciation:
ˈpat-sē
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s)plural pat·sies
Etymology:
perhaps from Italian pazzo fool
Date:
1903
: a person who is easily manipulated or victimized : pushover

Your right Griff, and I've posted on here for receiving a warning letter on "failure to work as directed" due to me standing up for what I think is right.

I honestly doubt you are anything like this in person, "Griff".

Lol, good job boy! Keep trying!

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by govols019

We had one that would. He was something else. I hate to see anyone lose his job but I was glad to hear that UPS finally fired him.

One of the reasons he was probably fired was job performance. They have way too many things to be worried about then hunting down the occasional rogue UPS driver.

[trplnkl]

Originally Posted by New Englander

One of the reasons he was probably fired was job performance. They have way too many things to be worried about then hunting down the occasional rogue UPS driver.

If Griff is what he says (not making a judgment one way or the other), he is certainly NOT a "occasional rogue UPS driver" and may well draw special attention from a DM.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Your right Griff, and I've posted on here for receiving a warning letter on "failure to work as directed" due to me standing up for what I think is right.

I honestly doubt you are anything like this in person, "Griff".

Lol, good job boy! Keep trying!

You mean your online persona that you've been talking about got a warning letter for standing up for himself? I could careless what you doubt or think, unless you know than it's all just speculation. Several people, all management, have accused me of misrepresenting myself on this website. They claim that someone like me would have been targeted and fired long ago, yet they will sit here and claim management never engages in these unfair labor practices. Just typical hypocritical nonsense from management, most of us have grown accustom to this. After you put your letter of intent in maybe you'll get placed here and then you can dance with the devil in the pale moonlight.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Griff

You mean your online persona that you've been talking about got a warning letter for standing up for himself? I could careless what you doubt or think, unless you know than it's all just speculation. Several people, all management, have accused me of misrepresenting myself on this website. They claim that someone like me would have been targeted and fired long ago, yet they will sit here and claim management never engages in these unfair labor practices. Just typical hypocritical nonsense from management, most of us have grown accustom to this. After you put your letter of intent in maybe you'll get placed here and then you can dance with the devil in the pale moonlight.

Yeah Griff, management doesn't and drivers don't. Give me a break already.

One of these days you'll stop being a tool. I don't know, the Batman quote was kind of cheesy. Yet for some strange reason it fits you.