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05-14-2008, 04:38 PM
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| Shop Steward Our CM has decided that our shop steward is no longer allowed to enter the building before 730 am. He was apparently catching and filing grievances on too many instances of supervisors working, so the CM decided if he doesn't see them doing it he can't file. We are waiting to see what happens since their is no restriction on any other drivers entering it seems a bit discriminatory. |
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05-14-2008, 05:08 PM
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| Re: Shop Steward so if your steward cant come in then why don't you or others file some grievances? |
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05-14-2008, 05:12 PM
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| | Leaker On the Jax Slide!!
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jacksonville,FL Hub 3229
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| Re: Shop Steward Quote:
Originally Posted by ikoi62 so if your steward cant come in then why don't you or others file some grievances? | ^ The truth
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05-14-2008, 05:37 PM
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| Re: Shop Steward We actually do, but the present steward has pushed the envelope far more then any other steward we have had has. He was coming in at 5 or 6 am, earlier then any other FTer to check on who was doing what. Most of the PTers will not file any grievances about sups working since they have seen the retaliation that comes from doing so. We're waiting to see if the CM wins this battle or if the union steps in to allow their representative free access to the workplace. |
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05-14-2008, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
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| Re: Shop Steward That should be a violation of the contract. A B/A has as much right to be on property as anyone of us. I know we have that in our contract. You may want to check your contract and then greive that!!!!
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05-14-2008, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia
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| Re: Shop Steward Same thing happened at my center, the CM told our shop steward he couldnt come in before 730. He is one of my drivers and he would come in at around 630 to go through his truck. He is filing 2 grievances one for discrimination against a steward and one for race because he is black and she is allowing "white" drivers in early to go through their trucks. |
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05-14-2008, 08:29 PM
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| Re: Shop Steward Been there, done that. I have done this and I'm not a steward or a business agent. They can't ban anyone from the property as long as they have hordes of braindead drivers going in early to sort through their trucks and listen to PCM's off the clock. It becomes a clear cut case of discrimination, regardless of race, against the person being banned from property. |
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05-14-2008, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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| Re: Shop Steward Is there not a Part-Time Steward on that shift? If there is the full-timer really has no business being there at 5am.
The Part-timer should be filing if its such a problem. |
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05-14-2008, 09:17 PM
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| | BRAVE NEW WORLD
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| Re: Shop Steward Quote:
Originally Posted by Hangingon Our CM has decided that our shop steward is no longer allowed to enter the building before 730 am. He was apparently catching and filing grievances on too many instances of supervisors working, so the CM decided if he doesn't see them doing it he can't file. We are waiting to see what happens since their is no restriction on any other drivers entering it seems a bit discriminatory. | ok, wouldnt it be easier, and more cost effective to hire another loader. Ups continues to cry about money, but continues to do counterproductive things...it makes no f'ing sense. step over the dollar to grab the penny, over, and over, and over again. Can someone explain why this is happening, oh....im tired, soooo tired. Heres an idea, maybe ups mgt should have the same incentives as the fedex managers, where if they dont make a passing grade with the people they manage they get no bonus, or theyre gone. |
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05-14-2008, 10:44 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: Shop Steward Quote:
Originally Posted by Hangingon Our CM has decided that our shop steward is no longer allowed to enter the building before 730 am. He was apparently catching and filing grievances on too many instances of supervisors working, so the CM decided if he doesn't see them doing it he can't file. We are waiting to see what happens since their is no restriction on any other drivers entering it seems a bit discriminatory. | At least you have a shop steward. Seriously our shop steward has been bought off by management. Our Stewart gets all the days off road he wants (inside work), Gets an automatic package car, Goes out with less than 50 stops a day. In return he has to keep the drivers at bay and make sure that everyone signs all documents like the 1/2 hour lunch thing. Our Steward was first in line to sign it. I just tell everyone I know, Were a non-union center. I'm not kidding people. |
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05-15-2008, 03:06 AM
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| | TSAMR/RM
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas
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| Re: Shop Steward Quote:
Originally Posted by mikestrek At least you have a shop steward. Seriously our shop steward has been bought off by management. Our Stewart gets all the days off road he wants (inside work), Gets an automatic package car, Goes out with less than 50 stops a day. In return he has to keep the drivers at bay and make sure that everyone signs all documents like the 1/2 hour lunch thing. Our Steward was first in line to sign it. I just tell everyone I know, Were a non-union center. I'm not kidding people. | Then vote him out as steward, replace him with someone with integrity and balls. Above all, read your contract, learn your rights.
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05-15-2008, 05:28 AM
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| | Outa browns on 04/30/09
Join Date: Jan 2008
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| Re: Shop Steward Quote:
Originally Posted by trplnkl Then vote him out as steward, replace him with someone with integrity and balls. Above all, read your contract, learn your rights. | I agree "step up" it would be easy to replace him. Talk to your ba. |
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05-15-2008, 06:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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| Re: Shop Steward Talk to your BA or the president of your union. The union steward is a rep of the union. He has every right to enter the building to investigate grievances. If the CM does not comply, have the union go to the labor board for this is a violation of the agreed upon contract. Let the CM know that he is in violation, give him a chance to rectify, then go on to higher channels if needed. |
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05-15-2008, 06:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: Shop Steward What is this about a 30 min meal? We take a full hour and a 10 min break. I'm the steward at my centerand i've never heard of this. Is it contractually legal? |
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05-15-2008, 07:31 AM
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| | ADKtrails
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Albany New York
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| Re: Shop Steward At most of the places I have worked, There have been rules that nobody is to be on the business property any earlier than 10 minutes before his shift as it distracts the other workers and it opens the company for a WC case if some one gets hurt, be it the guy coming in early or the workers on duty. If I have an issue, I need only to report it to my shop steward and let him handle it. |
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05-15-2008, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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| Re: Shop Steward what's the big deal with a supervisor helping out for a little bit? i heard there was a grievance filed at our hub for a supervisor 'working'...
i'm 34 and this is the first union job i've ever had and I just can't understand some of the thinking... |
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