Now District Managers follow us here!

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Griff

I see you logged on your flame/troll account again to respond to every single post I have recently made.

I'm just an imaginary character, remember? None of what I say has an ounce of truth, I've never filed a grievance and all that. Excuse me while I go back to my corner and cower like a good UPS driver does.

It also brings up a question I have. If everything I say here is complete crap and made up, why do you continue to stalk me relentlessly? Do you have something to lose or to gain? What agenda are you pushing...

wow griff is now employing teaamster goon tactic 13B. Claiming he is being singled out and picked on.

He is also employing goon tactic 16a in which he is expected to humilate fellow teamsters into filing BS grievances.

Oops he also got 13A in there which is similar to 13B claiming he is being singled out and stalked.

Griff has been a very good student of goon methodology.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Griff has been a very good student of goon methodology.

ROFLMAO, Tie....I would like to see these 'Goon Tactics' in depth. Is there a place online I can track them down??? -Rocky

[Griff]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Well....since you like super heroes and fantasy. Did you see Unbreakable?
You know when Samual L. Jackson is distraught as to the meaning of his life?
I've finally discovered my archnemesis.

In reality Griffster, everytime you spew your garbage I read it and it makes me want to respond. You absolutely fail to make a point that leaves me thinking "Damn, he got it right!".
You are POSTING on a PUBLIC forum to actually get some one to reply? Why else would you be here?

Funny that you would call me your arch-nemesis. I guess that speaks volumes about the kind of weight I throw around. A little gnat like yourself reads a few of my posts and declares holy war on me. Unfortunately, you'll have to take a ticket and stand in line like the rest of the scabs.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by tieguy

wow griff is now employing teaamster goon tactic 13B. Claiming he is being singled out and picked on.

He is also employing goon tactic 16a in which he is expected to humilate fellow teamsters into filing BS grievances.

Oops he also got 13A in there which is similar to 13B claiming he is being singled out and stalked.

Griff has been a very good student of goon methodology.

Did I touch a nerve there?

[1989]

Originally Posted by Griff

Funny that you would call me your arch-nemesis. I guess that speaks volumes about the kind of weight I throw around. A little gnat like yourself reads a few of my posts and declares holy war on me. Unfortunately, you'll have to take a ticket and stand in line like the rest of scabs.

You are probably your local's number one arch-nemesis...They probably wish they could throw you for all your useless grieves.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by 1989

You are probably your local's number one arch-nemesis...They probably wish they could throw you for all your useless grieves.

As much respect as I have for Griff personally, I agree. Grieving just to grieve doesn't do organized labor's reputation any good. -Rocky

[Jlemansk]

In my 20 years at UPS I have never experienced the type of treatment management is dealing out to its employees now. We must have the same District manager. Its funny how I just opened the letter from UPS complimenting service providers for being the best in the business. When I go back to work on Monday, the persecutions will continue. I really want UPS to continue to prosper. However, I feel we are not on the same team, and UPS has no intentions of making us feel inclusive. Stop counts are up about 20 percent per route in my building, and managment continues to scratch their heads as to why accidents and injuries are on the rise. They implement policies and procedures that hinder my ability to complete my job in a timley manner. I could go on and on, but will stop here.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by RockyRogue

As much respect as I have for Griff personally, I agree. Grieving just to grieve doesn't do organized labor's reputation any good. -Rocky

This is a figment of your imagination. Every grievance I've ever inked my name to was a violation of the contract. Remind me again how that is "grieving just to grieve", please. All that's going on here is a handful of people on this forum have banded together in an attempt to remove my credibility. Sign of the times at UPS, accept the status quo or be put on trial.

[1989]

Originally Posted by Griff

This is a figment of your imagination. Every grievance I've ever inked my name to was a violation of the contract. Remind me again how that is "grieving just to grieve", please. All that's going on here is a handful of people on this forum have banded together in an attempt to remove my credibility. Sign of the times at UPS, accept the status quo or be put on trial.

Why don't you give some examples? I've asked before but you never do. You damage your own credibility. Watch out it's a big conspiracy against you.

[RockyRogue]

Originally Posted by Griff

Every grievance I've ever inked my name to was a violation of the contract. Remind me again how that is "grieving just to grieve", please.

:::Sighs:::. I went rounds with intelligent, educated people yesterday on a ListServ. I'm still kinda smarting from that. I think I'll bow out here on this discussion before it gets really venomous. -Rocky

[soberups]

The Griff vs TieGuy fued is a good example of the broad spectrum of management and union reps we have, and why we need balance.
Like Griff, I am also a shop steward. Unlike Griff, I dont file many grievances. Part of the reason for that is because I dont need to... we have a couple of Griff-type stewards in our building who do file a lot, and they tend to keep management honest and accountable to the contract.
I dislike confrontation. I like to be reasonable, and I tend to deal well with management who feels the same way. Unfortunately, we also have our share of management who have nothing but contempt for the contract and the people they manage. They are ball-busters, and its nice to have a Griff in your corner to provide some balance.

[soberups]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Griff has been a very good student of goon methodology.

When I first started at UPS I didnt know much about unions, as far as I was concerned it was $30 a month I had to pay and nothing more.
I learned everything I know about "goon methodology"...from my management team. There is something about having your supervisor meet you behind a blown-out P600 with a termination letter in hand, threatening to "take your job" if you dont skip your lunch and "run scratch" on this overdispatched abortion of a route, that really opens your eyes to what "good methodology" is all about.
I have never met Griff, or even talked to him, so I dont know if he is a "goon" or not. I have, however, dealt with plenty of management people whose picture could very well appear in the dictionary next to the word "goon". I guess I should be grateful to them....they were the best lesson of the benefits of a labor union that I have ever had.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by soberups

The Griff vs TieGuy fued is a good example of the broad spectrum of management and union reps we have, and why we need balance.
Like Griff, I am also a shop steward. Unlike Griff, I dont file many grievances. Part of the reason for that is because I dont need to... we have a couple of Griff-type stewards in our building who do file a lot, and they tend to keep management honest and accountable to the contract.
I dislike confrontation. I like to be reasonable, and I tend to deal well with management who feels the same way. Unfortunately, we also have our share of management who have nothing but contempt for the contract and the people they manage. They are ball-busters, and its nice to have a Griff in your corner to provide some balance.

Except I'm not a steward, our steward skips his lunch and his truck is half empty every day.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Griff

This is a figment of your imagination. Every grievance I've ever inked my name to was a violation of the contract. Remind me again how that is "grieving just to grieve", please. All that's going on here is a handful of people on this forum have banded together in an attempt to remove my credibility. Sign of the times at UPS, accept the status quo or be put on trial.

Sure it is griff. Sure . Buddy . Uh....huh....Got ya.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by 1989

Why don't you give some examples? I've asked before but you never do. You damage your own credibility. Watch out it's a big conspiracy against you.

I have to sit here and explain articles of the contract to you? Why the hell would I bother...

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Griff

Except I'm not a steward, our steward skips his lunch and his truck is half empty every day.

Excellent Griff 17C the steward sold out to management is one we rarely see the average goon employ. You are really getting to be a master player of goonery. Folks we have a possible champion here. Once Griff is able to successfully play at least 90 percent of the book he becomes a master goon. As a master goon he gets the rights to wear a large medallion with the words "I'm solus unus ut est vox" which loosley translates to the words I'm the only one that is not screwed up.

[1989]

Originally Posted by Griff

I have to sit here and explain articles of the contract to you? Why the hell would I bother...

That's not what I asked...I asked for examples of your grievances...A couple years ago I didn't get paid for a funeral...Did I file a grievance? No, I mentioned it to management and it was no problem. I got my pay alot sooner than filing an unesessary grievance.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Excellent Griff 17C the steward sold out to management is one we rarely see the average goon employ. You are really getting to be a master player of goonery. Folks we have a possible champion here. Once Griff is able to successfully play at least 90 percent of the book he becomes a master goon. As a master goon he gets the rights to wear a large medallion with the words "I'm solus unus ut est vox" which loosley translates to the words I'm the only one that is not screwed up.

It's common knowledge and fact. He openly admits to skipping his lunch and all you need to do is take a wonder up the slide and look in his truck in the morning. Nothing on the floor whatsoever, just shelves. Must be nice getting back in at 3PM everyday like clockwork.