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05-20-2008, 07:18 PM
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#1 | | Mr. DR 6
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Rep Power: 0  | xxanex... I lost my dot card because I was prescribed xxanex by a UPS doctor to deal with stress. The stress has been classified as on the job by UPS doctors. My H.R. told me that there is no inside building work, yet they are hiring new am and pm shift poeple weekly.
Anybody hear of this in there building? |
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05-20-2008, 08:29 PM
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| Re: xxanex... Quote:
Originally Posted by rezzi I lost my dot card because I was prescribed xxanex by a UPS doctor to deal with stress. The stress has been classified as on the job by UPS doctors. My H.R. told me that there is no inside building work, yet they are hiring new am and pm shift poeple weekly.
Anybody hear of this in there building? | Get off the xanex and get a new DOT physical!
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05-21-2008, 12:17 AM
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#3 | | TSAMR/RM
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| Re: xxanex... Talk to your steward and BA, read your contract.
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05-21-2008, 12:22 AM
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| Re: xxanex... Quote:
Originally Posted by rezzi I lost my dot card because I was prescribed xxanex by a UPS doctor to deal with stress. The stress has been classified as on the job by UPS doctors. My H.R. told me that there is no inside building work, yet they are hiring new am and pm shift poeple weekly.
Anybody hear of this in there building? | Sorry to hear you're stressed out. Xanex is awesome, one of my favorites.
Anyway, seriously, you need to talk to your steward, because it seems fishy that they aren't allowing you to work inside. New hires or not, you should definitly be able to find work inside. |
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05-21-2008, 05:14 AM
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| Re: xxanex... File a grievance immediately.
There is national language regarding medically disqualified drivers. I'm not sure what article it is.
Also goggle "DOT Medical Regulations" and find 392.4, paragraph C.
It refers to drugs prescribed by your physician.
I find it curious the "company" doctor prescribed a drug that he knows, or thinks, is a prohibitive drug for drivers but then doesn't recommend or promote your working any other job inside.
I think this may be a growing trend by the company to weed out the "undesirables".
You also may want to consult a labor or ADA attorney. To be denied an opportunity is discrimination in its finest form. You haven't even been allowed to demonstrate that you can do other inside work.
I think they are "messing" with you to prove the points that:
1) stress doesn't exist within our company and;
2) to illustrate to other drivers that if you claim stress, this is how you will be treated. |
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05-21-2008, 07:42 AM
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#6 | | ADKtrails
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| Re: xxanex... There are a number of issues with Zanax. It can be adictive, can cause trouble swallowing....read the contraidications in the package. |
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05-21-2008, 07:55 AM
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| Re: xxanex... i know a guy who went on to full paid leave due to work stress. check with local about this.
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05-21-2008, 10:02 AM
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| Re: xxanex... I've taken xanex for sleep issues and I don't want to be around anyone in the UPS system who uses it while working. It's dangerous for the user and all around him no matter what anyone else says.
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05-21-2008, 02:06 PM
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| Re: xxanex... You could always sue the doctor for perscribing a medicine that he knew ahead of time would cause you to lose your job. There would also be a conflict of interest there, since you stated that the doc is a company doc.
I think your lawyer would have a heyday with this one.
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05-21-2008, 02:44 PM
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| Re: xxanex... rezzi,
Why in the world would you take a drug that will disqualify you from work in the first place? I wouldn't ever even consider taking anything that a company doctor prescribes. I would have gone to my personal physician to begin with. A real doctor should be able to prescribe an alternate drug which would have let you keep your DOT Card. Quit taking this immediately and get your card back. Not being able to work will not cure your stress problem. |
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05-21-2008, 03:38 PM
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| Re: xxanex... Xanax is classified as a "schedule" type medication, and all prescriptions of this kind are prohibited by the DOT, and will cause you to lose your card, as you found out the hard way. Most physicians are ignorant of DOT regs, and will unwittingly prescribe prohibited meds. By all means, inform your doctor of what has happened, and ask for a "non-schedule" substitute that is not banned by the DOT. As soon as you're off of the Xanax, your medical review office should clear you for service immediately.
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05-21-2008, 03:48 PM
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| Re: xxanex... MR Fed Quote: |
Most physicians are ignorant of DOT regs,
| This is not just a physician, this is a company doctor, one that is actively involved with the company, one that would have access and have knowledge of DOT regulations.
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05-21-2008, 04:12 PM
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| Re: xxanex... I don't take any drugs without first reading the warnings and letting the Doc know I drive for a living.
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05-21-2008, 04:52 PM
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| Re: xxanex... OK let's sort this out. So your prescribed Xanex by a UPS Dr. for stress right? Was it under workers comp? Who paid for the Dr. visit? UPS? If so then should be covered under comp.and you should be paid. Now your saying you go to a differant UPS Dr. for a physical and are not allowed to drive? I'm sorry but something doesn't seem right.
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05-21-2008, 07:58 PM
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#15 | | IYQYQR
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| Re: xxanex... Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy MR Fed
This is not just a physician, this is a company doctor, one that is actively involved with the company, one that would have access and have knowledge of DOT regulations.
d | That's funny. We have 'company' doctors that don't even know what a pkg drivers job description is. NOT KIDDING!!!!!!!!
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05-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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| Re: xxanex... DannyBoy,
Like I said, most docs are ignorant of DOT regs, even company physicians who should take the time to become informed. Most of the time, big companies go for the cheapest providers they can get, not the best.
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05-22-2008, 01:32 PM
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| Re: xxanex... Which is precisely why I have my own physician. My only concern with him is he seems to enjoy writing prescriptions and I have to tell him that I don't want the Rx. unless I absolutely need it. Give me 2 Tylenol 500mg and I am all set.
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05-22-2008, 06:13 PM
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| Re: xxanex... Advil gelcaps for me! |
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05-23-2008, 03:44 AM
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| Re: xxanex... Its the law of unintended consequences. And like it or not the doc has liability.
Kinda like you saying to the cop, I dont know what the speed limit is, there have been no signs since I got on this street. You think that is going to relieve you of the responsibility of knowing what the speed limit is?
The doc does have a conflict of interest in this case, much like a lawyer, and should have refered the driver to another doc. Or at the very least, should not have prescribed something to knock the driver out of his/her job.
My personal doc knows what the DOT rules are, and there are many times he would have prescribed something else, but it would have interfered with the safe opperation of the delivery vehicle.
Normally, I dont like the idea of suing, but the doc has responsibilities when it comes to your income loss during the time off. If it is a longer time than you can afford, see a lawyer.
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05-23-2008, 05:04 AM
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#20 | | retired and happy
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| Re: xxanex... Quote:
Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer Which is precisely why I have my own physician. My only concern with him is he seems to enjoy writing prescriptions and I have to tell him that I don't want the Rx. unless I absolutely need it. Give me 2 Tylenol 500mg and I am all set. |
Do you have your own shrink also? From some of your posts it sounds like you need one.  |
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05-23-2008, 05:58 AM
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| Re: xxanex... Up state, contrary to Rods post (I know its more a personality thing than the content of your post) I too have to remind the doc that some meds kill more people than they actually help.
I found better ways to deal with stress than drugs. Having a supportive family, and weekends off didnt hurt either
On a side note, you want stress, start your own business. Make sure you want to be responsible for the livelyhood of several employees with families. Like mine for instance, my business supports the lives of 19 people, many of them children, one pregnant, one with a mental disability. All with house payments, car payments, etc. And no weekends off anymore for the boss. Too busy lining up the next job.
With UPS, the check was there each and every payday. You didnt have to worry how the money got there. All you have to do is put in the hours.
From what my 33 years of service taught, much of the stress at UPS is brought upon the person by their own actions, or lack thereof.
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05-23-2008, 06:08 AM
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| Re: xxanex... My mom owned her own business quite a few years ago. A restuarant. They went on vacation and I filled in for her for 2 weeks. OMG, I put in 160/180 hrs while she was gone and I had help. I was exhuasted by the time she got back. I don't want to own my own business!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-23-2008, 04:21 PM
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