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| What is a Bid? Letter of Intent?This is a discussion on What is a Bid? Letter of Intent? within the UPS Discussions forums, part of the Brown Cafe UPS Forum category; Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer
Find out who the F/T shop steward is and talk to that person.
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07-05-2008, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer Find out who the F/T shop steward is and talk to that person. | I'm not trying to be an idiot - it comes naturally - how do I find that out? Duh, I'll ask someone that has time there.
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Originally Posted by But Benefits Are Great! I'm not trying to be an idiot - it comes naturally - how do I find that out? Duh, I'll ask someone that has time there.
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer Ask any driver--they are the overpaid guys in the brown suits. | Yeah - I think I've seen a few of them.... They drive those big brown thingys?
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07-05-2008, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by But Benefits Are Great! Yeah - I think I've seen a few of them.... They drive those big brown thingys?  | Hey BBAG, you could always ask your sup when you drive on Saturdays. Or even one of the other air drivers if you don't feel comfortable asking one of the f/t.
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Originally Posted by bellesotico Hey BBAG, you could always ask your sup when you drive on Saturdays. Or even one of the other air drivers if you don't feel comfortable asking one of the f/t.  | That's smart - didn't think of that. My Sat Sup seems much more gung-ho than the HR & Weekly sup combined. I'll ask one of the long-timers on Monday who the steward is.
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Originally Posted by But Benefits Are Great! So is a letter of intent required for requesting a cover driver / FT driver position?
Pardon my stupidity - I could only find a sample letter for the MAPP process, which I understand I DO NOT want to do. Suggestions on finding a LOI sample for cover driver / FT driver (if required)?
Second, and this will sound dumb - is there any reason at all my SUP or HR person would avoid pointing me in the right direction for the necessary forms and the location of the BID list? I ask because I have inquired about these from HR and my SUP for 3 weeks, three times a week, with no answer. SUP says he doesn't know what a BID list is????
I feel silly wandering around the building looking for a bulletin board..... | No...a letter of intent is not required for a cover driver or full-time driver position. All that is required of you is to sign the bid sheet, and the positions are then filled by seniority.
It dissapoints me to hear that you are getting the run around from your supervisor and HR representative. I assume you have asked a full-time sup, because it is very possible that a part-time sup would not know.
If you're supervisor insists on acting dumb, I would recommend that you talk to his manager. There is no reason for him (or her) to lie to you about it.
You should also be able to ask a shop steward about the bid sheet and bid process. I would also recommed you meet your business agent if at all possible. Your business agent could be a good person to get to know in case you ever have any questions or need any union assistance. |
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07-05-2008, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bad company No...a letter of intent is not required for a cover driver or full-time driver position. All that is required of you is to sign the bid sheet, and the positions are then filled by seniority.
It dissapoints me to hear that you are getting the run around from your supervisor and HR representative. I assume you have asked a full-time sup, because it is very possible that a part-time sup would not know.
If you're supervisor insists on acting dumb, I would recommend that you talk to his manager. There is no reason for him (or her) to lie to you about it.
You should also be able to ask a shop steward about the bid sheet and bid process. I would also recommed you meet your business agent if at all possible. Your business agent could be a good person to get to know in case you ever have any questions or need any union assistance. | Excellent assistance.
I have to word this tactfully -
Our HR guy is infrequently available, voice mailbox is always full, rarely in the office.
The "Manager" I have been asking, who I like personally as well as professionally, and is looking just fabulous, is the Facilities Pre-Sort Manager.
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07-05-2008, 07:57 PM
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Rep Power: 7836 | Re: What is a Bid? Letter of Intent? Letter of intent, you give one to management if you want to join the dark side. Bid, if a FT position becomes open they post a bid sheet where you put down your name/seniority date/date/signature if you want a chance at the position offered. The bid winner is determined by seniority. |
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07-06-2008, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by But Benefits Are Great! The "Manager" I have been asking, who I like personally as well as professionally, and is looking just fabulous, is the Facilities Pre-Sort Manager. | Please read "Fraternization in the Workplace" before proceeding further down that road.
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07-06-2008, 05:55 AM
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And, as this is the 1st time in my 40+ years that I ever worked for someone else, I was blown away about what a relief it was to only have to worry about one thing - your job. Instead of accountants, employees, the trash, lanscaping, office crap, complaints, etc. Yeah, I do love my job.
| Kinda funny. During my career at UPS, I developed a business on the side. And the business has taken off in directions I had never anticipated. It is very different!
For well over 30 years, you show up, clock in, do the work, clock out, and every week, get paid. You even get paid for time you dont work, like vacations, sick days, optional day.
Someone else is in charge of lining up the daily work, someone else takes care of cleaning the facility, paying for the fuel, uniforms, supplies, someone else takes care of customers that are idiots, employees that are idiots, getting new business so you have money coming in to pay everyone.
Before, someone else had to deal with employees not wanting to work some days, and your family has grown to include problems in their family as well. Nothing like an employee who's daughter is pregnant for the second time before she turns 17.........
And for the first time I can remember, I am the last person to get a check each week. And if there is not enough money for that, then I do without.
Anyway, I do understand your view, you show up for work and after your shift ask "is this all there is to this job?" What a piece of cake!
But I enjoy the challenge of owning my own business. Maybe I was too bored in delivery and just didnt know it. But it is different working for a union company one year, and then owning a business the next. You make a lot of mistakes that at the begining are good for the employee, but hurt the business. The trick is to find that middle ground, to where they have a job to go back to the next day.
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07-06-2008, 11:28 AM
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Rep Power: 772 | Re: What is a Bid? Letter of Intent? You might not be finding anything to bid on if there are no openings... in a small center the bid sheet is not always up due to the fact all the positions are filled.. Maybe your in a small center as well. |
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