finished my interview, what now?

drewed · 07-09-2008, 02:08 PM

BBAG I dont want to bust on you but, Im pointing out something most everyone here has seen at some point or another; people being promised the stars and all they get is a carl's jr's bags pulled out of the trash. Ive seen people go to class promised to be sitting on the bench and never go driving; Ive seen people put their lives on hold, holding on to promises that never came to be. Ill be glad for you if youre driving next month and Im sure from your attitude youll do well but dont keep your life on hold for UPS or any company for that matter,...

But Benefits Are Great! · 07-09-2008, 02:20 PM

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BBAG I dont want to bust on you but, Im pointing out something most everyone here has seen at some point or another; people being promised the stars and all they get is a carl's jr's bags pulled out of the trash. Ive seen people go to class promised to be sitting on the bench and never go driving; Ive seen people put their lives on hold, holding on to promises that never came to be. Ill be glad for you if youre driving next month and Im sure from your attitude youll do well but dont keep your life on hold for UPS or any company for that matter,...

So far every promise that has been made to me by UPS, its' managers, and its' HR department, from day one, has come to fruition, plus some.

Until they show me otherwise, I will count on the track record they have set with me. I know I am dealing with a large corporation that has set rules that an individual like myself cannot alter. However, I have been dealing with individuals, and these individuals know me, my personality. I believe that they know me well enough that if they, as individuals, mislead me, I will make their individual life completely miserable. And the promises they have made have been made after they know who I am.

Again, they are batting 1000, so until I see otherwise, I'm taking their word.

sx2700 · 07-09-2008, 02:49 PM

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Perhaps more important, why are you so rabidly upset regarding my good luck?

I wonder that too.

bellesotico · 07-09-2008, 03:08 PM

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Belle seriously baby will never go ft standing underneath moms dress, so piss off and let him stand on his own, he needs to do it on his own to stay at UPS

BBAGS will make a post next month it will be either why am I getting the run around? (from my exp is what its gonna be) or I made it. I'll be the first to congratulate him if its the latter; Im trying to instill in him that all is not always what it seems and people will say a lot to get what they want. Because at this point in the game, theres so much he doesnt know about UPS and the way things are done.

Drewed- You know..I'm growing really impatient with your little tantrums. I take your "piss off" comment no different than you saying "f-off". If you have a personal problem with me..which I have NO idea why you would then why don't you MAN UP and address it instead of resorting to insults.
Don't think for one second because I don't choose to engage in your child's play that I am not fully aware of your little rants. You might think you have a little power because you are a pt sup, but let me fill you in on something. All I see is a bunch of black text on a white screen.

bellesotico · 07-09-2008, 03:17 PM

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I wonder that too.

Maybe he could post a poll and everyone could decide for him?

But Benefits Are Great! · 07-09-2008, 03:23 PM

Drewed -

You sound like a very bitter, unsatisfied person. I'm sorry if that is the case. I can assure you I am (probably) not the cause.

"...He started a month ago, but hell never drive. OK, he drives Saturdays, but will never go to Integrad. OK, he is going to Integrad, but will never go full time, etc, etc, etc, etc....Yeah, He's CEO, but his stock option package isn't worth that much..." (ok, a little too far)

You can do that forever, always say "yeah, but you'll stumble on the next step.

Although I do NOT appreciate the condecending attitude of your master, I do sincerely respect that he had the integrity to say "BBAG, I was simply having fun at your expense. Don't lose your enthusiam and positive attitude. I do hope everything works out well for you. Dave." That is a stand-up comment.

Have some balls, get less bitter. A man's character, in the end, is all he has.

FromBluetoBrown · 07-09-2008, 03:35 PM

I'm just curious to how many senior part time employees were stepped over and how many contract violations were made to get him his full time driving spot

But Benefits Are Great! · 07-09-2008, 03:48 PM

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I'm just curious to how many senior part time employees were stepped over and how many contract violations were made to get him his full time driving spot

I'll be honest with you - if the senior part-time employees wanted the position, and worked as hard as I did/do to get it, they would have it before me.

So, this will sound callous, and I don't mean for it to, but I don't/can't care about that. I care about taking care of my family. If others are not as ambitious and drop the ball, should I boost them up and help them get a job that I want?

Diegotron · 07-09-2008, 03:50 PM

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Belle seriously baby will never go ft standing underneath moms dress, so piss off and let him stand on his own, he needs to do it on his own to stay at UPS

BBAGS will make a post next month it will be either why am I getting the run around? (from my exp is what its gonna be) or I made it. I'll be the first to congratulate him if its the latter; Im trying to instill in him that all is not always what it seems and people will say a lot to get what they want. Because at this point in the game, theres so much he doesnt know about UPS and the way things are done.

So...he needs to "defend" himself on BC on his own to stay at UPS? Is that in the contract?

Drew, you quit already, so quit being a drama queen and leave already. If not, atleast make a "I came back" thread so I know where you stand.

ButBenefitsAreGreat, I got mad when I read your post about becoming a FT driver in such short a time... Because I was told everyone had to put in there time, which around here is about 5-6 years. So yeah, I was upset, but then again it's my fault for not going after it like you did. So an early congratulations if all goes well for you.

Diegotron · 07-09-2008, 03:53 PM

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I'll be honest with you - if the senior part-time employees wanted the position, and worked as hard as I did/do to get it, they would have it before me.

So, this will sound callous, and I don't mean for it to, but I don't/can't care about that. I care about taking care of my family. If others are not as ambitious and drop the ball, should I boost them up and help them get a job that I want?

The job is supposed to be offered to them I believe according to the rules.

FromBluetoBrown · 07-09-2008, 03:57 PM

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I'll be honest with you - if the senior part-time employees wanted the position, and worked as hard as I did/do to get it, they would have it before me.

So, this will sound callous, and I don't mean for it to, but I don't/can't care about that. I care about taking care of my family. If others are not as ambitious and drop the ball, should I boost them up and help them get a job that I want?

Right and I understand that but it sounds to me from how you described the process was alot of secret handshakes and drug deals were made to get this spot for you. Did you sign a full time/cover driver bid list? Or were you an outside hire and if so was there a 6:1 ratio? These are the processes that need to be adhered to before someone can become a driver. Not this "I've been dealing with individuals" stuff. Because we all know that UPS management is just a larger scale of the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. Management could very well be using you to pull one over on the Union.

But Benefits Are Great! · 07-09-2008, 03:59 PM

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The job is supposed to be offered to them I believe according to the rules.

I understand, as well as understanding your previous post, and appreciate what you are saying.

I guess my point, all along from the very beginning, is if I ask, pester, "Kiss Ass" as per NYS, who am I to then say no when I receive what I ask for?

And I think my most recent post here clarifies it more - I'm nothing special - there are guys who are better than me at this - just not vocal, communicative. I have NEVER stabbed someone in the back to get forward, I've never badmouthed anyone, I never, and never will, sink someone else to move forward. This is like musical chairs - if someone with seniority is not paying attention to the music, I should be upset because I got their seat?

But Benefits Are Great! · 07-09-2008, 04:03 PM

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...Right and I understand that but it sounds to me from how you described the process was alot of secret handshakes and drug deals were made to get this spot for you...

On the contrary - there is not one person in the entire building that doesn't know at least my first name, and that I won't shut up about being a driver sooner than anyone else in UPS history. Complete opposite of clandestine.

dilligaf · 07-09-2008, 10:06 PM

If BBAG went to FT over more senior PT's then those PT's need to file a greivance. Once they have won their greivance then they become full time and the company cannot take away BBAG's FT status. 2 jobs for the price of one. Leave it to the company to screw things up. LOL

drewed · 07-09-2008, 10:27 PM

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If BBAG went to FT over more senior PT's then those PT's need to file a greivance. Once they have won their greivance then they become full time and the company cannot take away BBAG's FT status. 2 jobs for the price of one. Leave it to the company to screw things up. LOL

Um i believe they could as long as they do it before he makes seniority...

upsgrunt · 07-09-2008, 11:00 PM

BBAG--congratulations on the fast track. PLEASE keep us informed on what happens along the way, as I am really interested. I'm, by no means, dogging you, but I have a weird feeling that the crap will start flying and I just would like to know how it goes.
Again, congrats, and keep up the good work!
Steve

Mike Hawk · 07-10-2008, 03:45 AM

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I'm not busting on you - although I desperately want to. Maybe later.

But what the HECK are you talking about? Class in Maryland is in stone. You are saying I'll go to class then I won't drive?
I have seen 2 of our preloader get sent to class, and 3 from our local sort, none have been hired FT, they just use them for shuttle work, if anything.
Perhaps more important, why are you so rabidly upset regarding my good luck?

Shoot for the stars all you want, and if you hit them great. But don't be suprised if you hit a stump because someone else has seniority.

covemaster · 07-10-2008, 06:22 AM

may be benefits works in a smaller bldng and no one else wanted to go temp fulltime or summer cover or even perm full time!!or maybe some of the other p/timers failed the road test because they wern't liked ie.... oh you didn't use the hand rail sorry come back next year!! the unwritten rule at ups,vets know what I mean!! But I also feel that the less said the better off he'll be .

sx2700 · 07-10-2008, 06:43 AM

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may be benefits works in a smaller bldng and no one else wanted to go temp fulltime or summer cover or even perm full time!!or maybe some of the other p/timers failed the road test because they wern't liked ie.... oh you didn't use the hand rail sorry come back next year!! the unwritten rule at ups,vets know what I mean!! But I also feel that the less said the better off he'll be .

This is the way it goes in our center some times. A lot of the part timers have regular full time jobs and just work there for the insurance so they have no interest in full time, therefore allowing newer hires to move ahead of them.