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07-16-2006, 09:42 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: between the Sun and the Moon
Posts: 1,323
Rep Power: 1252 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? You will show up to your car the first of "going live", and you will think, "what the f*&(* are they thinking". Either you will have nothing in your car, or you'll have so much crap outside your car that it won't fit. I rarely get upset, but that day I was so pissed off. You and others will miss businesses. The only time I ever missed businesses was when they implemented PAS.
You may have a pcm and have a visit from the district manager promising you that each driver in a loop will meet with the dispatch supervisor to go over your route-It will happen with the first few drivers who start pas, but then the "PAS Team" will give up and just deploy the rest of the drivers on the system. I was so pissed about broken promises of getting info on my new route. No one met with me, and no trace map was given to me-despite people giving their word.
Our center PAS deployment team get an F- (I would give them a lower grade if there was any thing lower). I knew some at ups break promises, but this just confirms, and makes me more pissed off at the "brains" behind ups.
The position of your stops will change day to day. Plan on working alot of overtime |
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07-17-2006, 02:24 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SE Virginia
Posts: 1,628
Rep Power: 10347 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Quote: |
Originally Posted by danlin We keep asking when the nightmare will come to our center. We have been told that in order for our center to have the nightmare our building requires a $200,000 add -on.And we all know how how UPS is quick to spend money.
So it looks like it wil be awhile before the ngihtmare starts here.
A northern center in the rocky mt district. | LOL.
Stand by, UPS spent 1.5 million to bring the screw up to our place.
The PAS team did spend a lot of time meeting with drivers in our building. The team leader was very easy to work with and honestly, my route is easier to follow with EDD. The problem is time allowance. I picked up 30 stops and average an hour over-allowed. |
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07-17-2006, 07:37 AM
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#28 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 637
Rep Power: 1907 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Quote: |
Originally Posted by rushfan You will show up to your car the first of "going live", and you will think, "what the f*&(* are they thinking". Either you will have nothing in your car, or you'll have so much crap outside your car that it won't fit. I rarely get upset, but that day I was so pissed off. You and others will miss businesses. The only time I ever missed businesses was when they implemented PAS.
You may have a pcm and have a visit from the district manager promising you that each driver in a loop will meet with the dispatch supervisor to go over your route-It will happen with the first few drivers who start pas, but then the "PAS Team" will give up and just deploy the rest of the drivers on the system. I was so pissed about broken promises of getting info on my new route. No one met with me, and no trace map was given to me-despite people giving their word.
Our center PAS deployment team get an F- (I would give them a lower grade if there was any thing lower). I knew some at ups break promises, but this just confirms, and makes me more pissed off at the "brains" behind ups.
The position of your stops will change day to day. Plan on working alot of overtime | "This is a fine place,to hesitate.Those bonfire lights in the mirror of sky.The space between wonder and why". |
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07-18-2006, 01:03 PM
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#29 | | Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 62
Rep Power: 27 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Quote: |
Originally Posted by browniehound I have a bit of advice that might save you a ton of aggravation. When looking through EDD in the AM, if lists a NDA that looks like a bad address or a stop that would be unlikely to get a NDA, go to your truck and check it out. It probably has a bad PAL. When using ASD's, I believe the PAL label has to be created manually and we all know how difficult it is to read a person's handwriting. The person applying the PAL is going to look in the system for the nearest match address. And 95% of the time this in incorrect. You''ll end up driving to the other side of town at 1030 to deliver a NDA that isn't even yours and now you behing 1/2 hour. | ASD's and SRB labels are the weakest link when it comes to getting accurate PALs. At the moment all of the billing copies are scanned and trasmitted to someplace (India, I think) and are key-entered. They are NEVER, and I mean it, NEVER ever entered properly. I have seen packages meant for 1000 Main St entered as 100 Main St, "Central" entered as "Center" or "Commercial", and rural addresses will be completely mangled because the key-entry person decided to interpret the address in their own special way. |
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07-19-2006, 04:05 PM
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#30 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Jacksonville,FL
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 32 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? i see that here in our hub all the time |
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07-19-2006, 10:01 PM
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#31 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: between the Sun and the Moon
Posts: 1,323
Rep Power: 1252 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? disneyworld:
AMEN! Neil always was right. |
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07-20-2006, 03:46 PM
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#32 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 0 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Remember to tell your air drivers not to shuttle any of the missloaded pieces to any drivers unless they are compensated for it. They should be getting full scale drivers wages if they shuttle any pieces . |
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07-20-2006, 05:33 PM
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#33 | | Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North New England
Posts: 9,400
Rep Power: 18429 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Agreed. Don't let them tell you you don't get full rate because you didn't deliver it. You progressed the package, you get full rate.
__________________ If one is looking here for some serious advice on this public board instead of their Sup/Mgr/Colleagues, they'll have to filter their "advice" |
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07-20-2006, 08:53 PM
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#34 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 637
Rep Power: 1907 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Quote: |
Originally Posted by over9five Agreed. Don't let them tell you you don't get full rate because you didn't deliver it. You progressed the package, you get full rate. | No more deals.No more favors.It's by the book now more than ever. |
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07-21-2006, 05:17 AM
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#35 | | Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 87
Rep Power: 69 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Any time an air driver delivers a ground pkg they get drivers pay!!!!!!!!! |
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07-21-2006, 06:49 PM
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#36 | | Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North New England
Posts: 9,400
Rep Power: 18429 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Any time an air driver shuttles a ground, he gets full rate.
__________________ If one is looking here for some serious advice on this public board instead of their Sup/Mgr/Colleagues, they'll have to filter their "advice" |
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07-21-2006, 08:40 PM
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#37 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 0 | Re: P.A.S. Coming to our center-Any advice? Tell you air drivers not to let this happen. I did let it happen & when I tried to go back get the full drivers wages too much time went by & my grievence was no good. |
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