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tieguy · 08-05-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by local804

The shirt is blacker than black, maybe you should check your computer settings. Is this your answer to my question? What type of flag do you fly on your house?

The real question should be what type of lumbar do you have stuck up your rear. Despite your attempt to turn this into a race issue other posters can see the point and humor in that this looks like a prison photo. Your cheap effort to turn this into a race issue has been noted.

go ahead 804 tell me how you are the jesus christ of race relations. How you have never told or participated in listening to any type of race related joke or comment. Tell us how you immediately admonish anyone who makes any comment that could even slightly be considered offensive to anyones race or ethnicity. Go ahead and tell me of the race purity of your mind.

Hypocrit get ye behind me.

browndevil · 08-05-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by brazenbrown

Don't fool with us or your going down!

Is the guy in the middle named Jorge that delivers in the west village? I met him while visiting my sister-in-law in NYC last summer
Totally prison like and they meant it to look that way
! Jmho..

local804 · 08-05-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

The real question should be what type of lumbar do you have stuck up your rear. Despite your attempt to turn this into a race issue other posters can see the point and humor in that this looks like a prison photo. Your cheap effort to turn this into a race issue has been noted.

go ahead 804 tell me how you are the jesus christ of race relations. How you have never told or participated in listening to any type of race related joke or comment. Tell us how you immediately admonish anyone who makes any comment that could even slightly be considered offensive to anyones race or ethnicity. Go ahead and tell me of the race purity of your mind.

Hypocrit get ye behind me.

Please dont try your reverse psychology bs with me when you dont even know my race. If you could have answered the question without getting defensive and trying to twist the tales around, there would be a little more respect over this matter. If you knew that one of those "thugs" protected your freedom and risked his life to spare yours would you still think with the same warped mind? If my memory is correct, your dad served in the forces and I am sure these thugs thank him for his past efforts. If ever came to 43rd, you would not see any crosses burning around here but you would see alot of inmate types running around the buildings. What is the difference between the thugs in the pictures and the thugs that wear the suits? Oh forget it, you dont answer questions, you just twist it around......

tieguy · 08-05-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by local804

Please dont try your reverse psychology bs with me when you dont even know my race.

and you don't know anything about mine.

If you could have answered the question without getting defensive and trying to twist the tales around, there would be a little more respect over this matter. If you knew that one of those "thugs" protected your freedom and risked his life to spare yours would you still think with the same warped mind?

Ah and you think I was doing what during my youth? smoking pot and badmouthing my country. sorry bud wrong angle. I served my country and guess what my job was to save lives too.

If my memory is correct, your dad served in the forces and I am sure these thugs thank him for his past efforts. If ever came to 43rd, you would not see any crosses burning around here but you would see alot of inmate types running around the buildings. What is the difference between the thugs in the pictures and the thugs that wear the suits? Oh forget it, you dont answer questions, you just twist it around......

The problem here my friend is you're trying to turn this into a lot more then it has be. Hopefully those inmate types I see running around 43rd street were born with a sense of humor. you don't have the right to accuse anyone else of insensitivity unless you are the jesus christ of sensitivity. Something tells me you're not.

The rest of us have learned to laugh at ourselves without turning everything into a race , ethnicity or economic origin issue. You should try it sometime.

Give me a freaking break.

satellitedriver · 08-06-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Care to expand on this?

Actually, I am collecting addendum's that apply to truisms.
I plan to write a compendium of them, after (if) I retire.
I just threw it into the conversation, but, 804 did answer the question.

"TDU T-Shirt
Black with large TDU emblem on back.

$15 for S, M, L, XL, and XXL

$18 for 3XL and 4XL

Shipping Cost: $2 per shirt.

Contact TDU for shipping discounts on orders of 15 "

UpstateNYUPSer · 08-06-2008, 07:08 PM

[quote=satellitedriver;380172]Actually, I am collecting addendum's that apply to truisms.
I plan to write a compendium of them, after (if) I retire.
I just threw it into the conversation, but, 804 did answer the question.[quote]

I thought you were trying to convey something much more substantive than that. In fact, I would bet my check that you were. There was something behind your "price" comment.

satellitedriver · 08-06-2008, 08:16 PM

[quote=UpstateNYUPSer;380174][quote=satellitedriver;380172]Actually, I am collecting addendum's that apply to truisms.
I plan to write a compendium of them, after (if) I retire.
I just threw it into the conversation, but, 804 did answer the question.

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I thought you were trying to convey something much more substantive than that. In fact, I would bet my check that you were. There was something behind your "price" comment.

Nope, it really is just a metaphor.
Pick up any book, no matter the subject, and the price is openly displayed on the outside, no matter the cover "come on".
Addendum's ,added to truisms, only makes one think further about the concept of truth vs the facts, in a a proposed statement.
Keep your check, please.
I know how hard they are to earn.
No hidden conveyance on my part.

local804 · 10-13-2008, 07:57 AM

http://804membersunited.org/wp-conte...ofroncarey.pdf

705red · 10-13-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by local804

http://804membersunited.org/wp-conte...ofroncarey.pdf

excellent read local, thanks for posting the link

CRASH501 · 10-13-2008, 09:51 AM

I THINK IT'S GREAT YOU GUY'S ARE ATTEMPTING TO UNITE . BUT IF THE AVERAGE GROUP OF TDUers WORK HALF AS HARD IN SUPPORTING YOUR UNION AS YOU DO UNION BASHING , THE UNION SYSTEM WOULD NOT BE FALLING APART. ATTEND MEETINGS , VOICE YOUR CONCERNS IN A CIVILIZED MANOR WORK AT REBUILDING YOUR UNION NOT DESTROYING IT..........
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.THATS JUST MY OPPINION AND THE OPINION OF A FEW OF MY 804 BROTHERS ... BUT HEY YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT OPPINIONS.

hangin455 · 10-13-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by local804

http://804membersunited.org/wp-conte...ofroncarey.pdf

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...3323/index.htm

705red · 10-13-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CRASH501

I THINK IT'S GREAT YOU GUY'S ARE ATTEMPTING TO UNITE . BUT IF THE AVERAGE GROUP OF TDUers WORK HALF AS HARD IN SUPPORTING YOUR UNION AS YOU DO UNION BASHING , THE UNION SYSTEM WOULD NOT BE FALLING APART. ATTEND MEETINGS , VOICE YOUR CONCERNS IN A CIVILIZED MANOR WORK AT REBUILDING YOUR UNION NOT DESTROYING IT..........
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.THATS JUST MY OPPINION AND THE OPINION OF A FEW OF MY 804 BROTHERS ... BUT HEY YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT OPPINIONS.

Is that not what these members are doing? Just because tdu endorses a person does not mean that person is a tdu member. I have meet several people on here that are from 804 and in talking with them they are very passionate about their local.

tieguy · 10-13-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 705red

Is that not what these members are doing? Just because tdu endorses a person does not mean that person is a tdu member. I have meet several people on here that are from 804 and in talking with them they are very passionate about their local.

Red I think you missed his point. He said the TDU'ers spend too much time bashing the union and not enough fixing it. Perhaps you could call it misdirected passion?

CRASH501 · 10-13-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

Red I think you missed his point. He said the TDU'ers spend too much time bashing the union and not enough fixing it. Perhaps you could call it misdirected passion?

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.MORE OR LESS YES .
.THE TDU GUYS ARE ALWAYS AT MY BUILDING HANDING OUT SOME BS FLYERS ABOUT THE LOCAL AND OUR "ELECTED" UNION REPS

.. AGAIN SPEND JUST 1/2 AS MUCH TIME TRYING TO CORRECT YOUR ISSUES RATHER THAN BASHING THE UNION AS A WHOLE AND THE UNIONS MIGHT SOME DAY BE 1/2 AS STRONG AS THEY WERE YEARS AGO.
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OUR SYSTEM IS GETTING WEAKER AND WEAKER BY THE DAY THANKS TO THE NON PARTICIPATION OF SO MANY OF OUR UNION BROTHERS .
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WHY NOT COME HAND OUT A FLYER PRIOR TO EACH UNION MEETING , RALLY THE GUYS TO ATTEND THE UNION MEETINGS AND TO EDUCATE THE ROOKIES ON THEIR RIGHTS AS A TEAMSTER.
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OUR SHOPPIES ARE JUST 1 PERSON THEY DO NEED SOME HELP NOW AND AGAIN MY CENTER IS ABOUT 80-90 DRIVERS NOT COUNTING SORTERS , LOADERS, AND FEEDER DRIVERS YOU BARELY SEE 300 AT OUR UNION MEETINGS AND AGAIN THATS JUST 1 OF 2 CENTERS IN MY BUILDING ALONE..
YOU HAVE ,BRUSH - ELMSFORD - YORKTOWN- MN NORTH - 43rd - SPRING ST - I BELIEVE 3 BUILDINGS IN QUEENS AND 2 IN LONG ISLAND , TRY UNITING MORE DRIVERS AND EDUCATING THEM ON WHAT THEIR UNION ACTUALLY DOES FOR THEM IF WE STICK TOGETHER.
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UNFORTUNATELY EVERYONE IS TOO BUSY CUTTING DEALS FOR THAT LIGHT LOAD OR EXTRA DAYS OFF . RATHER THAN WORRY ABOUT SUPERVISORS WORKING DOING OUR UNION WORK THAT OUR BROTHERS SHOULD BE DOING.........EDUCATE THE ROOKIES GET BACK TO BASICS