Is it a driver's "job" to be the morality police?

OMS Queen · 08-26-2008, 10:54 PM

Let me start by saying I'm not a driver, I'm an OMS (hence the name). I'm not out there on the road, but a lot of issues and situations fall in my lap.

So here's the latest. A concern came in about a delivery (no knock) and when I called the lady back, she said she thought the driver didn't knock because of a confrontation he had with her brother. Apparently, during a previous delivery, the driver noticed her brother (aged 19) was viewing porn on the internet and commented about it. This lady knew the driver's name because it CAME UP ON CALLER ID! She said the driver called her mother to snitch on her brother's inappropriate, non-Christian internet viewing habits. She went on to say that her mother didn't know what to say so just thanked him, then checked the computer herself. Needless to say, I was completely taken off guard and spent the next five minutes apologizing for the driver's behavior.

So, is it a driver's job to be the morality police? At what point do you whip out your personal morality meter and proceed to inflict your views on others?

Opinions? Thoughts?

soberups · 08-26-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OMS Queen

So, is it a driver's job to be the morality police? At what point do you whip out your personal morality meter and proceed to inflict your views on others? Opinions? Thoughts?

A good driver should never, ever pass up on a golden opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

The only time a driver should ever get involved in the personal life of a customer is if he witnesses criminal activity or child abuse. Other than that, its none of his damn business. In my opinion, what this driver did was totally unprofessional and inappropriate.

Nitelite · 08-27-2008, 01:08 AM

Absolutely unprofessional.

IDoLessWorkThanMost · 08-27-2008, 01:36 AM

one side of the story.......

omgitsnick · 08-27-2008, 03:32 AM

what could the other side of the story be? "Hey *****im looking at porn, dont disturb me."

trplnkl · 08-27-2008, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IDoLessWorkThanMost

one side of the story.......

And what is the other side?

UpstateNYUPSer · 08-27-2008, 03:34 AM

This was without question none of the driver's business and he needs to apologize for his actions.

speeddemon · 08-27-2008, 03:41 AM

If the little dweeb wants to look at goat porn as the highlight of his day because hes too lame to actually get a real female , power to him.

IDoLessWorkThanMost · 08-27-2008, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by trplnkl

And what is the other side?

Maybe it's a lie? =/ Or the story was told unlike it actually was - perhaps the driver didn't call, but was there, and it was a big circus? How the hell do I know. Believe 10% of what you hear and 50% of what you see..

I was lied to time after time after time at the counter by customers, sure most are honest but you get unbelievable stories and etc....one lady said she had a 42" TV stolen from her house on a UPS driver that just "left it there"...turned out the on-car sup was riding with that driver that day, and yes they didn't leave any 42" TVs at any house calls... I told the lady she needed to call corporate and everything short of "youre a liar"...you just never know...

trplnkl · 08-27-2008, 04:10 AM

Even IF the story told was not true or at best one sided, the question on a hypothetical level is still valid. When is it appropriate for a UPS driver to push his own morality on others? And the answer is, barring illegal activities, never.
I had a route once in a small community, I knew who received what and how often. Which community leaders bought stuff from Adamandeve.com. Who's kids I saw doing things most parents would not approve of. I even walked in on a preacher having phone sex in his office at the church. None of this was my business and kept it all to myself. If the preacher was looking at Kiddy porn, that's a different story.

Baba gounj · 08-27-2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by IDoLessWorkThanMost

Maybe it's a lie? =/ Or the story was told unlike it actually was - perhaps the driver didn't call, but was there, and it was a big circus? How the hell do I know. Believe 10% of what you hear and 50% of what you see..

I was lied to time after time after time at the counter by customers, sure most are honest but you get unbelievable stories and etc....one lady said she had a 42" TV stolen from her house on a UPS driver that just "left it there"...turned out the on-car sup was riding with that driver that day, and yes they didn't leave any 42" TVs at any house calls... I told the lady she needed to call corporate and everything short of "youre a liar"...you just never know...

I should start a new thread on lies told at the counter; the most poplar one has to be " I need this _____ right now because I am leaving the country " of course they used ground.

pt_oms · 08-27-2008, 07:24 AM

How about: I need my package inmediately, it contains my medication. Then you track said package and it is from Victorias secret, QVC, or a cable box. You tell the customer, the pkg is.t from a phramacy and you can just hear their minds scrambling to make up anoyher excuse

dilligaf · 08-27-2008, 07:39 AM

First of all, absolutely the driver had no business sticking his nose in (hypothetical or not).

Second, OMG the world is coming to an end, a 19 yr old looking at porn. Who'd of thunk it.

browndevil · 08-27-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OMS Queen

Let me start by saying I'm not a driver, I'm an OMS (hence the name). I'm not out there on the road, but a lot of issues and situations fall in my lap.

So here's the latest. A concern came in about a delivery (no knock) and when I called the lady back, she said she thought the driver didn't knock because of a confrontation he had with her brother. Apparently, during a previous delivery, the driver noticed her brother (aged 19) was viewing porn on the internet and commented about it. This lady knew the driver's name because it CAME UP ON CALLER ID! She said the driver called her mother to snitch on her brother's inappropriate, non-Christian internet viewing habits. She went on to say that her mother didn't know what to say so just thanked him, then checked the computer herself. Needless to say, I was completely taken off guard and spent the next five minutes apologizing for the driver's behavior.

So, is it a driver's job to be the morality police? At what point do you whip out your personal morality meter and proceed to inflict your views on others?

Opinions? Thoughts?

That's is a great story. I am starting to collect my personal stories so when I retire I can write my screenplay of crazy, weird, wacky stuff I have encountered.

You said the kid is 19? That is an adult. The driver was way out of line on this one. Dude, your job is simple, look at the address, drive to the house, deliver the package repeat as necessary (aprrox 150 times daily) Then go home and enjoy your family

sx2700 · 08-27-2008, 07:53 AM

If whacking off to internet porn is a crime then 90% of the male population is guilty.

over9five · 08-27-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IDoLessWorkThanMost

one side of the story.......

This is sooo true!!! My God, some of the stuff OMS people have told me that customers say when they call!

I have come to the conclusion that MOST people who call UPS to complain simply have nothing better to do.

feeder53 · 08-27-2008, 11:45 AM

I, as a driver would not get involved in a personal matter with a customer. I will step in if there is a danger to the person or the public. But mind you that may be to call the proper authority. As far as what is reported, I have learned that one must listen very carefully and take both sides of the story and then too be very careful coming to a conclusion.

raceanoncr · 08-27-2008, 02:05 PM

Um, just what exactly was the internet porn site, um, just to, um, you know, um, stay away from it if it, um, accidently shows up on my, um, you know, computer...dude?

UpstateNYUPSer · 08-27-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sx2700

If whacking off to internet porn is a crime then 90% of the male population is guilty.

This is one minority group I can proudly say I belong to.

MonavieLeaker · 08-27-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OMS Queen

Let me start by saying I'm not a driver, I'm an OMS (hence the name). I'm not out there on the road, but a lot of issues and situations fall in my lap.

So here's the latest. A concern came in about a delivery (no knock) and when I called the lady back, she said she thought the driver didn't knock because of a confrontation he had with her brother. Apparently, during a previous delivery, the driver noticed her brother (aged 19) was viewing porn on the internet and commented about it. This lady knew the driver's name because it CAME UP ON CALLER ID! She said the driver called her mother to snitch on her brother's inappropriate, non-Christian internet viewing habits. She went on to say that her mother didn't know what to say so just thanked him, then checked the computer herself. Needless to say, I was completely taken off guard and spent the next five minutes apologizing for the driver's behavior.

So, is it a driver's job to be the morality police? At what point do you whip out your personal morality meter and proceed to inflict your views on others?

Opinions? Thoughts?

What goes on behind closed doors of houses is not the drivers business unless its a murder or anything along that line...He was out of line to snitch on something so redundant

Work right slow and safe · 08-27-2008, 03:19 PM

what happens if the 19 year old looks like he was 15 then would it be right ????? I do

Channahon · 08-27-2008, 06:02 PM

OMS Queen

So what did the driver have to say about the concern?