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aspenleaf · 07-30-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyboy

And he is suposed to do what? He cant even win an election when he is the only person running.

Actually, if he wasnt such an ass, he would be a really funny guy. Might help to have some humor at the table

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LOL, yes he did lose but he is funny and he would be perfect take on the teamsters or at least get them riled up or very confused as to why we would send him to represent us. I think diadlover was just messing with us; because he was so over the top. I think in real life he might actually be a nice guy.

over9five · 07-30-2006, 06:13 PM

DIADLOVER IN 2007!!!!

(sorry, I always go with the underdog!)

wornoutupser · 07-30-2006, 07:07 PM

Tie,

I do not understand the company position on the excessive overtime.
I have personally filed greivances since February. I have asked for both the extra overtime pay and the penalty pay for not being paid yet. This has snowballed into a huge situation between my center manager and myself.I have yet to see one cent of pay.

I am tired of working until 9:00 or 10:00 at night. It is the middle of summer and peak is over. Why am I not allowed to go home and see my family?

When I call my center manager on his cell to complain (While I am still at work and he is at his kid's ballgames), he brushes me off. It is the middle of summer and he will not put in the needed runs to handle the volume on a daily basis. All he does is play the shell game by moving work around to different drivers and blowing everyone out daily.

I questioned the division manager about this and I was told that the center manager has the final authority to add runs as he sees fit and that these decisions are his.

Why is UPS willing to alienate their long time drivers and pay out the nose on greivances rather than using the extra drivers in the summer to cross train on other routes? Our on roads go out every day with cover drivers to teach runs to cover the daily call ins. We can work 4 days and still make overtime for the week. My supervisor has probably not been in the building for 7 days yet this year. This alienates the supervisors as well. They are as sick of this as the houlies are.

I am not ranting, I am truly trying to understand what the thought process is here.

trickpony1 · 07-30-2006, 07:42 PM

wornout,

It sounds like you have followed the chain of command of our famous "open door" policy so espoused by "our" company. The next step might be:

1) write a letter to the district manager explaining that you have followed the chain of command with no response. This should rattle some cages. You might request audience with the DM to discuss the issue but be sure to take a witness ( union steward ) with you. My guess is the DM doesn't have a clue what is really going on as the reports he sees are probably "doctored" by the front line sups so they look good.

2) Request audience with the union president and/or the business agent and/or the union steward to determine why your grievances are not being resolved. If you really want to piss some people off write a letter to the IBT headquarters expressing your concerns.

3) Contact Atlanta by letter/phone. This probably won't do any good as they (atlanta) will refer the issue back to your bosses.

We all know it's a "numbers" game and at years end, your sup's chunk of stock gift is dependant on the numbers looking good, irrespective of whether the job is getting done and the customers are happy.

good luck

dannyboy · 07-30-2006, 07:53 PM

And when all else fails, call the UPS hotline. They will follow up on the issues.

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trickpony1 · 07-30-2006, 08:16 PM

Danny-

I'm sorry to be so "doom and gloom", but do you really think Atlanta is gonna jump through their "rear end" to resolve this situation especailly when it involves paying a rather large grievance?

I believe Atlanta is fully aware of what is going on and why.

07-30-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyboy

I agree with Danlin

The routes are to be set up that each driver can and should take lunch during the lunch time period. Now that being said, if you have a day once in a while where you get slammed, then I could understand not taking your lunch before 5.
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BWHAHAHAHAHA!...I can't believe I'm hearing this crap.

I took my lunch every day at the same exact time...for one full hour.

My ENTIRE career. ALWAYS. If I EVER gave up a minute, it was for ME. If I was slammed, an hour. Light load...and hour.

Anybody who gives up a lunch or awaits till dinner time...hahahaha, a 5 PM lunch...well, you're brownie whipped. I worked hard enough lugging boxes for 10 hours up and down brownstones in Brooklyn to give up a meal hour that was in my contract, and in the heat?....yeah, ok...let me give up my hour for the sake of some fat bellied micro manager so he can make nice numbers and work on that stock option and promtion. He's so proud of me and how I gave up my lunch...I'm going to have job security now! HAHA!

And I never lugged a diad around during my lunch.

You guys work hard enough in all types of weather....the money you make is not because these pricks are generous...it's because of your unions. Without them you would be making 10 an hour and be replaced when you turned 35.

Cezanne · 07-30-2006, 10:41 PM

Remember watching a History Channel special on the German made autobaum done during the third reid, apparently some of the german workforce that built the thing were not happy with their treatment by their superiors. Some of them complained by letter to Hitler believing they had the right as nazi party members, the laborers names were issued to the SS and we all can guess the results. The morale of the story is you do not trust your chain of command (company or union) why request a target on your back

traveler · 07-31-2006, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cezanne

Remember watching a History Channel special on the German made autobahn done during the third reid, apparently some of the German workforce that built the thing were not happy with their treatment by their superiors. Some of them complained by letter to Hitler believing they had the right as Nazi party members, the laborers names were issued to the SS and we all can guess the results. The morale of the story is you do not trust your chain of command (company or union) why request a target on your back

Are you related to Howard Dean? That was quite a comparison! UPS similar to Hitler and the Nazi party even in a vague similarity? I do get your drift and somewhat agree but I do think the metaphor is extreme.

PS. If I don't post again for a while it's because I am flying out today to Europe.

dannyboy · 07-31-2006, 05:06 AM

What, they dont have internet in europe?

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mrbill · 07-31-2006, 05:07 AM

YOU HAVE HIS CELL NUMBER AND CALL HIM??????????????

AND YES THE NAZI UNIFORM WAS BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused1

traveler · 07-31-2006, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyboy

What, they don't have internet in Europe?

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We will be on a ship and the charge for internet access is about 75 cents a minute! Yes, I am still a bit frugal.

UPS may be tough but no one was ever shot for complaining (though the thought crossed my mind once or twice in my career!) :confused1

dannyboy · 07-31-2006, 06:01 AM

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one was ever shot for complaining (though the thought crossed my mind once or twice in my career

Dont feel bad, for years I was the hands on favorite driver to loose it, and be the one to go on the postal spree at work. I must admit, the pressure was very very tough. And yes, while the comparison to the nazis was a bit off, I did have several sadistic supervisors that intended to make my live rough. And sadistic is not even adequate for the way they were.

Lucky though, I out lasted them. Both in sanity and longevity at UPS.

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moreluck · 07-31-2006, 06:13 AM

Traveler....

Bon Voyage