Thinking of going management.

[mikestrek]

This is all a shame, UPS can be so much better. I'd like to go into management. However, when I see management and sup's in my center stressing so bad that they are willing to pass the buck to there driver or loader to make themselves look good or not get the blame for something. Management in our center now talk up the saying " s#@t rolls downhill". I feel sorry for the young sup's. There trapped and they have another 30 years to go. I'm sorry but it's all about the numbers and making the shareholders happy. Some days sup's dont even know I'm there. They call me and think I'm on vacation. I'm just a number now. They don't even know when I'm there. They just know my package car has gone out on route and wished they could have cut that route to make the numbers look better. When I started 24 years ago things were not easy but at least a sup would look in the back door of your vehicle and make a call. Now they look at the computer and say "Have a nice day". Both Cener manager and on road sup's try to team up to cut routs to make there numbers look good and don't even notice one driver staying out until 9 pm and another staying out until 5 pm. Who cares about all that if the numbers look good.

I love my company (UPS) and I love my union (Teamsters) but management is way to scarry these days. Seriously folks.

[drewed]

Originally Posted by tieguy

The part time supevisor in todays world is much better treated and much better compensated then I ever was as a part time sup. Your statement is more accurate in reference to the old days.

With the 850 starting wage the skill level of todays part time sup is much less then we had many years ago. So we either promote someone who is barely literate but knows the job or we promote someone off the street who is literate but does not know or understand our company and the job.

The part time sup works a 5.5 hour day. Anything over that is compensated with overtime. Todays part time sup is nothing more then an hourly worker with a management title.

Ouch that hurts Tie

Not all of us are aimless wonders.

[1989]

I would have went into mgmt if I didn't have to cover so many other jobs. (double and sometimes tripple shifting) and spending 3 or more hours delivering as a pt sup.

[8up]

some darn good replies here. i hope my two cents will be worthy. p/t supervision can be a quick way to increase your income level. the pay is better now than ever in the past for p/t sups. if they work you too much, you start earning overtime pay, and the district comptroller won't want that to happen. if you can get with a good mgmt team that can mentor to you, train you in use of the technology and how to work with people all of that would be beneficial to you. continue to get an education outside of UPS. all of that stuff would look good on a resume for life outside of UPS. i would not suggest going into f/t mgmt without being a driver first, and advancing to top pay scale first. you'll be the lowest on the payroll toteum pole without having driven first, and if you stop to figure your hourly rate, you will think you were better off as a p/t hourly. usually newly promoted f/t sups have their pay set to something like what they would earn at 45 hours of their current pay rate. but i've seen too many of them working 60 hours, you do the math. and now they only get 20% per year of their stock award each year so that keeps the annual income number lower than in the past. anyway get as much info as you can, then good luck with your decision. as long as you can live with it, most of us end up living with the ones we made.
thanx,