Signs of............. PEAK!!!!

barnyard · 09-20-2008, 06:16 AM

It might be a subject of a different thread, but my volume has dropped. Last week, I had 130+ stops everyday (usually dispatch at 115). PAS was implemented on Monday and I have had 103-110 everyday.

Monday and Friday weren't bad. Tues, Weds, Thurs all sucked as they 'tweaked' the route those days.

TB

trplnkl · 09-20-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by barnyard

It might be a subject of a different thread, but my volume has dropped. Last week, I had 130+ stops everyday (usually dispatch at 115). PAS was implemented on Monday and I have had 103-110 everyday.

Monday and Friday weren't bad. Tues, Weds, Thurs all sucked as they 'tweaked' the route those days.

TB

Just now going on paseddpalspa and all huh? Just wait, it's gonna get.....

brownnblue · 09-20-2008, 07:03 AM

In '05 & '06, I had a couple of very good helpers. They were willing to work hard and they could think on their feet when I was away. They also caught on to the DIAD very quick, but that was after I retrained them after management's training. I was also going out with about 210-220 stops a day, with the package car slammed so bad selection was an impossibility.

Last year my helper was horrible. Slow, said he knew the streets but he didn't, long winded with the customers, did I mention slow? Interestingly, though, I was only dispatched with 160-170 per day.

I guess that a helper, who does a good job, also gets more work!!

trplnkl · 09-20-2008, 07:05 AM

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I guess that a helper, who does a good job, also gets more work!!

Ya thank?

over9five · 09-20-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by barnyard

Says in big print, on the box: MADE IN CHINA

I've delivered a few and picked up a few.

TB

What's your point? Surely you've heard of Chinas huge Amish population!

LOL!

toonertoo · 09-20-2008, 09:06 AM

They dont yet realize Christmas is always December 25th. Sneaks up on em every year.

barnyard · 09-20-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by over9five

What's your point? Surely you've heard of Chinas huge Amish population!

LOL!

Yep, when I think of the center of Amish culture and population, China is the 1st place that comes to mind.

TB

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-20-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by barnyard

Monday and Friday weren't bad. Tues, Weds, Thurs all sucked as they 'tweaked' the route those days. TB

It is this "tweaking" that gives PAS/EDD a bad rap.

barnyard · 09-20-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

It is this "tweaking" that gives PAS/EDD a bad rap.

Yep. The Tuesday tweaking was my suggestion that they did not enter correctly. So, the Monday errors were still there, plus the mistweak on Tuesday.

It was frustrating because when they announced the roll out date, I came here and did a search (who woulda thought, a user, using the search function) and read up to find out what to do to make it easier/more successful.

I typed out my 1st four sections, stop for stop, including all ranges. Got the 1st list and tried to correct their input errors. They did, kind of, then rearranged some stuff.

Thursday morning, I had an early AM and when I dropped my lunchbox, I noticed something amiss. After a really loud, " W T F," part of it was corrected, they sent me out with the rest. It would have added an hour to my day, plus I would not have been able to deliver my NDA's and my regular route would have started an hour+ late. ANnnnnnnd, I would have had to get gas during the day, because they added 20-30 miles, mostly do to back tracking.

2 customers stopped me when I was at other stops asking for their stuff. It was cut from my route and added to another. So, instead of getting 9:10-9:30 deliveries, they were getting their stuff at 14:00-14:30. I had businesses that were getting stuff at 10-10:30 and I was delivering at 14:00-14:30.

Then, Friday, everything was fixed, kind of.

Now, I am debating whether it is worth fixing the ranges on the resi areas or just leave well enough alone.......

TB

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-20-2008, 01:57 PM

Keep working on it. It will make your life easier in the end, although it may not seem like it now.

BTW, you will find a number of DIAD tips associated with EDD on this forum which will also make your life easier. These include Find BC, setting the DIAD at a particular stop so that it doesn't go back to the first stop, designating NDA SVR stops as Residential or Commercial and so on.

Work the bugs out and you will find that PAS/EDD can be a valuable tool.

PASinterference · 09-20-2008, 01:57 PM

Peak plans?Take out old folder from last year,mark out 2007 and write 2008 and subtract 1 driver and 2 trucks.Add long hours and serve over rice.

barnyard · 09-20-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

BTW, you will find a number of DIAD tips associated with EDD on this forum which will also make your life easier. These include Find BC, setting the DIAD at a particular stop so that it doesn't go back to the first stop, designating NDA SVR stops as Residential or Commercial and so on.

Those tips were all worth the effort to do the search.

The 'Find BC' button is worth it's weight in gold, gold, I tell ya.

I am probably complaining about nothing. My worst day, I ran 77% on trace. I did not see Friday's numbers, yet, but I would bet that I ran close to 90%. I ran my 1st 55 stops in order.

TB

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-20-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by barnyard

The 'Find BC' button is worth it's weight in gold, gold, I tell ya. TB

Seinfeld? Banya?

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-20-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PASinterference

Peak plans?Take out old folder from last year,mark out 2007 and write 2008 and subtract 1 driver and 2 trucks.Add long hours and serve over rice.

This should have been posted under Life After Brown, under the thread "What's Cooking" by Moreluck. Sounds like leftovers from last year (and the year before and before that and so on and...)

barnyard · 09-20-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Seinfeld? Banya?

Ha, no soup for you.

TB

I say that when I walk into a pick up stop and they say, "nothin today."

badpal · 09-20-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by barnyard

Yep. The Tuesday tweaking was my suggestion that they did not enter correctly. So, the Monday errors were still there, plus the mistweak on Tuesday.

It was frustrating because when they announced the roll out date, I came here and did a search (who woulda thought, a user, using the search function) and read up to find out what to do to make it easier/more successful.

I typed out my 1st four sections, stop for stop, including all ranges. Got the 1st list and tried to correct their input errors. They did, kind of, then rearranged some stuff.

Thursday morning, I had an early AM and when I dropped my lunchbox, I noticed something amiss. After a really loud, " W T F," part of it was corrected, they sent me out with the rest. It would have added an hour to my day, plus I would not have been able to deliver my NDA's and my regular route would have started an hour+ late. ANnnnnnnd, I would have had to get gas during the day, because they added 20-30 miles, mostly do to back tracking.

2 customers stopped me when I was at other stops asking for their stuff. It was cut from my route and added to another. So, instead of getting 9:10-9:30 deliveries, they were getting their stuff at 14:00-14:30. I had businesses that were getting stuff at 10-10:30 and I was delivering at 14:00-14:30.

Then, Friday, everything was fixed, kind of.

Now, I am debating whether it is worth fixing the ranges on the resi areas or just leave well enough alone.......

TB

well if your back to semi normal by friday the impletetion ??process must be better than in the past. i still get cold chills thinking about when we started 3 years ago.

rod · 09-20-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kene1024

They don't really sell any of this crap do they? P.T. Barnum was apparently right

toonertoo · 09-21-2008, 09:51 AM

They certainly do really sell these. One day recently I had 5, 2 going to one house of an elderly woman, and although I dont usually go in homes, I had to put these inside for her. Past all her china closets and knickknacks.
The come out of Canton Ohio, and I did buy an Eden Pure last year, and it does warm things up. It didnt make it through winter though, so they sent me a bigger one for the same price. Hope it makes it this winter.

browniehound · 09-21-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cino321

I'll tell you one thing, you'll never catch me doing 25 stops an hour with a helper, let alone 30-40, I don't care what freaking time of the year it is.

Cino, I have no idea what your route is like, but based on your comment it sounds like its a business route or a country route.

You might think I'm a lunch-runner or route-burner, but its not the case. I work hard just like you do and I follow the methods to work safely and efficiently. Its the area that dictates how many stops/hour I can do.

I think I have the best house call area in the entire country! It just can't get any better than what I have. The streets are close together and most of the houses are less than 30 feet from the street. Walking at my slowest pace or stuck with heavy bulk 25-28/hour is easy. Stick me with some density and a helper and 50/hour is achievable.

Mike Hawk · 09-21-2008, 03:50 PM

I learned long ago that stop counts mean nothing, it's just one number of many that influence how long a route takes. Example, helped a driver at a neighboring center do the mall route he does 60 stops on average, but his route can get up to 1300(a few weeks ago, not peak) packages loaded into 5 package cars.

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-21-2008, 04:02 PM

How does that work? Do you both drive a pkg car out to the mall and then you shuttle the empty pkg car back to the bldg and pick up the next car? Do you make pickups throughout the day and bring those back as you swap cars?

I have heard of double tripping and even triple tripping but have never heard of quintuple tripping. Are there enough spaces in the DIAD for all of those return to building and left building times or does the driver simply stay on area and your shuttling times are not entered?

My questions may sound stupid but the concept of 5 pkg cars and a helper is a new one to me.