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10-01-2008, 01:13 PM
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#1 | | Nightcrawler
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Here is an alternative that WILL work. Please give it a look and act if you so feel compelled. I did. I don't want us to have to pay for these buffoons mistakes. http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/fed_bailout/3_steps_to_change_the_nations_future_10928.htmlc?i ctid=sptlt1
Dave is a very smart man when it comes to money. 
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong place. Can a mod please move it?
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10-01-2008, 01:56 PM
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#2 | | Carnivore
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He struck out as soon as his article said to pray for our leaders. Might as well sacrifice a virgin or bite the head off a snake.
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10-01-2008, 02:24 PM
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#3 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by chev 
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong place. Can a mod please move it?
| Its in the wrong forum, but I will leave it here for a little while so more people will see it. 50 billion beats 700 anytime in my book, and it would keep the thieves from coming back for more. Quote:
Originally Posted by cachsux He struck out as soon as his article said to pray for our leaders. | Praying that Evil will do the right thing doesn't seem to work in my experience. I doubt there will be many lawyers and politicians in Heaven. Its all about them keeping power, not doing the right thing for us. I voted early yesterday and remembered some of them. I even wrote in my own name for state rep and senator because only the incumbant was on the ballot. | |
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10-01-2008, 02:53 PM
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#4 | | Nightcrawler
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Originally Posted by scratch Its in the wrong forum, but I will leave it here for a little while so more people will see it. 50 billion beats 700 anytime in my book, and it would keep the thieves from coming back for more.
Praying that Evil will do the right thing doesn't seem to work in my experience. I doubt they will be many lawyers and politicians in Heaven. Its all about them keeping power, not doing the right thing for us. I voted early yesterday and remembered some of them. I even wrote in my own name for state rep and senator because only the incumbent was on the ballot. | I've already requested the thread to be moved.
You need to read down further than the part about prayer to the links that outline the plan.
This was not ment to be a religious or political post.
Here is the link to the pdf. this page
I posted his site because he provides links to congressional and senatorial web sites
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10-01-2008, 04:57 PM
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#5 | | Nightcrawler
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@scratch......I should have read your post a little better. I see you did at least take time to read the plan. I hope a lot more will. Dave is a very smart man and it wouldn't hurt for a lot more people to listen to what he has to say. A financial wizard; some would say. Thanks for leaving the thread here.
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10-01-2008, 05:06 PM
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#6 | | Moderator
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I second that, we are leaving it here. | |
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10-01-2008, 06:07 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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Just a quick update on the bail out plan--it has jumped from $700B to $800B. They threw in a number of tax breaks and money for the hurricane victims. | |
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10-01-2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chev @scratch......I should have read your post a little better. I see you did at least take time to read the plan. I hope a lot more will. Dave is a very smart man and it wouldn't hurt for a lot more people to listen to what he has to say. A financial wizard; some would say. Thanks for leaving the thread here. | If even half of the population of this country listened to Dave Ramsey this nonsense wouldn't even be going on. I discovered Dave Ramsey about 4 years ago and after following his advice I was completely debt free in less than a year.
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10-01-2008, 06:49 PM
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i grabbed supper tonight at garfields, and with all the teasers to get the people to vote yes, it is close to 100 billion.
it is if interest to note that so many of our foreign friends are the ones that will get hurt worse if we dont. places like china, saudi arabia just to mention two.
i say screwem time to take care of those here at home.
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10-01-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chev @scratch......I should have read your post a little better. I see you did at least take time to read the plan. I hope a lot more will. Dave is a very smart man and it wouldn't hurt for a lot more people to listen to what he has to say. A financial wizard; some would say. Thanks for leaving the thread here. | Dave uses the wizardry of common sense.
Luckily, my father and mother taught me in the same manner.
No matter what "their" plan is, be sure to have a plan of your own.
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10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
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Common sense has no place in politics.
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10-01-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brownmonster Common sense has no place in politics. | Sounds a lot like UPS. 
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10-01-2008, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brownmonster Common sense has no place in politics. | How true! This passed the Senate tonight, and they were praising Sen. Chris Dodd. He is one of the main ones that has caused this mess in the first place. Dodd and Barney Frank should resign. I guarantee this isn't going to be the last bailout. They will come back and rob us again. | |
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10-01-2008, 09:35 PM
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#14 | | Nightcrawler
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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer Just a quick update on the bail out plan--it has jumped from $700B to $800B. They threw in a number of tax breaks and money for the hurricane victims. | I smell pork!
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10-02-2008, 03:00 AM
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#15 | | I live dilbert
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The damage is already done. I don't want to bail out the fat cats. I do want to help the blue collar folks who will ultimately end up getting screwed by this mess.
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10-02-2008, 04:39 AM
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Does the Boston Tea Party have any relevance.Read about it and lets discuss. Wasn't the United States of America created by a revolution? | |
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10-02-2008, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tieguy The damage is already done. I don't want to bail out the fat cats. I do want to help the blue collar folks who will ultimately end up getting screwed by this mess. | You are exactly correct Tie. It's the majority of the population that will be adversely effected if the loan/financial companies bankrupt. I'm not in favor of bailing out the CEO's and such that have been running these companies, in fact some of them belong in jail.
I will read Ramsey's plan, although I doubt it will be given much consideration in DC. When I divorced several years ago I was deep in debt and got out of it to be essentially debt free within a year by using some of Ramsey's ideas. The funny thing is, at that time I had never heard of Dave Ramsey.
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10-02-2008, 02:20 PM
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#18 | | Nightcrawler
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Originally Posted by trplnkl You are exactly correct Tie. It's the majority of the population that will be adversely effected if the loan/financial companies bankrupt. I'm not in favor of bailing out the CEO's and such that have been running these companies, in fact some of them belong in jail.
I will read Ramsey's plan, although I doubt it will be given much consideration in DC. When I divorced several years ago I was deep in debt and got out of it to be essentially debt free within a year by using some of Ramsey's ideas. The funny thing is, at that time I had never heard of Dave Ramsey. | That's because you used common sense.
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10-03-2008, 04:31 AM
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I enjoy listening to Dave and then into the 3rd hour I get mad coz I know I will die in debt. 
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10-03-2008, 10:29 AM
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#20 | | ADKtrails
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I think if we collect all those golden parachutes and melt them down we can get some of that cash back. | |
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