Lawsuit

[obraindead]

On word.........Lawyer

[rocket man]

I agree with card bords post.

[pretzel_man]

Originally Posted by pissedoffmanager

I am a former manager with UPS, I quit on 9/3 and am now considering filing a lawsuit, since they have refused to pay me anything for money earned while I still worked there. I have one month of pay they are refusing to honor, and I am going to consult my lawyer tomorrow to start filing. UPS is one of the most dishonest companies I have ever worked for, and frankly, how they stay in business blows my mind. Maybe it is just the part of the country where I worked, but I was actually told by district and division managers to find reasons to fire certain drivers! I now see how this company is actually run, and I for one will expose the people at least in this area for who they truly are. Our dispatch manager has told me that she has purposely altered GTS numbers so her DPS and DMS numbers are better, and she can still get a good "rate-n-rank," (this I can prove, and I did try to fire her, but since she was sleeping with my boss, it didn't happen, I can also prove that...with video.) people like her should be fired, along with half of the useless pt management that UPS employs. They do nothing except waste space and yell, at least here. I was a center manager for 5 years, the worst 5 years of my life. UPS has contributed to insomnia, alcholic intake, and even my divorce, each of these things I can prove as directly related to this useless company, I will one day soon be a majority stock owner once my lawyer gets the filings done.

Sorry, but I just don't know how I can believe you...

Here's why:

- You quit shortly before getting MIP?? You only had to wait 2 months to get your MIP. Even with the 1/2 being deferred, you would have giving up a chunk of money. Don't buy it.

- Your district manager AND division manager told you to find reasons to fire people?? Don't buy it.

- Someone altered GTS numbers to fix DPS and DMS? First, what numbers would you alter. Second, GTS has nothing to do with making DPS or DMS numbers better. Don't buy it.

- A manager sleeping with a division manager. Okay, I can believe that.

- Useless p/t supervisors. If you were a manager, you would know that you had a direct relationship with their effectiveness. You would basically be saying that you were the cause. Again, don't buy it.

This is a made up assertion, and its funny how others just took this to be fact without question.

p-Man

[dannyboy]

pman

while i still think he is a troll and nothing more, i did find it interesting that he had the ability and time to video all the shortcomings of everyone else around him but of course he had none.

i also must agree with your statement about the part time sups. every building i ever spent time in was a reflection on how the center manager ran the show. never thought about it that way, but it is very true.

d

[pretzel_man]

Originally Posted by dannyboy

pman

while i still think he is a troll and nothing more, i did find it interesting that he had the ability and time to video all the shortcomings of everyone else around him but of course he had none.

i also must agree with your statement about the part time sups. every building i ever spent time in was a reflection on how the center manager ran the show. never thought about it that way, but it is very true.

d

Danny,

Maybe I missed it, but I don't see where he actually posted a video. He says he has video....

The only video he he mentions is of two management people together it seems....

If I were to bet, he is NOT a management person at all. It wouldn't surprise me if he does have video of two management people going out.

P-Man

[dannyboy]

as posted, a troll. what had been missed you filled in.

d

[trplnkl]

The OP is surely a troll, no bout a doubt it. But, evidently he knows someone in management pretty well. Even though he got some of the specifics screwed up he knew enough to throw out the , "MIP... GTS numbers to fix DPS and DMS" terms. I've been with the company for 23 years, have been close friends with many management people in the past and have never even heard of those terms. I guees the MIP is relating to the stock bonuses that management recieves. Utter than that I gots no clue.

[skid mark]

Originally Posted by drewed

who ordered the package cars, your uniforms, scheduled the feeders and flights, turned on the lights, created the advertisement and sign your checks?

any old monkey.....

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by 705red

From what i hear this is true down in your neck of the woods, people cant tell who is management and who sre union reps.

Here you can tell, the union reps are the ones telling the sups to put down their work!

Actually we keep our stewards away from the coffee and donuts and actually make them work.

You'd be spending less time in the office with me.

[705red]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Actually we keep our stewards away from the coffee and donuts and actually make them work.

You'd be spending less time in the office with me.

Actually tie by getting to know you aover the last couple of years i have a feeling we would be in your office alot....... handling grievnaces because you believe its ok to violate the contract at will.

We dont get coffee and donuts here, as i was leaving the building today you couldnt even get a soda, because all the vending machines had been removed.

[some1else]

Originally Posted by drewed

they havent done it this month but they did it the prior couple months, sometimes they were sent out in the middle of the day to get them on the way home whenever, everyone you see is a potential lead

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i have a theory how they do it. i turn in a sales lead. it gets "lost" the customer opens an account. who do you think gets credit? how many sales leads do you think ive put in since then?

[pissedoffmanager]

Just somewhat of a quick update to this thread....yes, I did sue, and within two days of providing evidence that other people including our PDS and Driver Sups were changing numbers, I was offered and took a nice settlement.... UPS is a great nationwide company, but as far as ethics go, at least in this part of the country, it fails, and I am sorry I ever took the job with them just after getting my MBA. I am much happier teaching college courses now, and frankly have better hours!

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by pissedoffmanager

Just somewhat of a quick update to this thread....yes, I did sue, and within two days of providing evidence that other people including our PDS and Driver Sups were changing numbers, I was offered and took a nice settlement.... UPS is a great nationwide company, but as far as ethics go, at least in this part of the country, it fails, and I am sorry I ever took the job with them just after getting my MBA. I am much happier teaching college courses now, and frankly have better hours!

Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone getting a teacher's certificate in less than 2 months.

[jw55wags]

Well Hoaxster you must remember he got schooled at UPS!!

[20 Plus]

Originally Posted by pissedoffmanager

Just somewhat of a quick update to this thread....yes, I did sue, and within two days of providing evidence that other people including our PDS and Driver Sups were changing numbers, I was offered and took a nice settlement.... UPS is a great nationwide company, but as far as ethics go, at least in this part of the country, it fails, and I am sorry I ever took the job with them just after getting my MBA. I am much happier teaching college courses now, and frankly have better hours!

Sniff.... Ick..... Anyone else smell that?

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone getting a teacher's certificate in less than 2 months.

I think they had to give him one as part of the settlement

[sortaisle]

hmmm...well then. Good luck teaching liberal policies to p/t upsers as a college professor. Apparently, your already adept at spreading crap around!

[drewed]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone getting a teacher's certificate in less than 2 months.

A lot of community colleges dont require a teaching certificate hoke, even our public scholls dont require one if you want to be a sub teacher you just have to have BA

[pissedoffmanager]

Originally Posted by Hoaxster

Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone getting a teacher's certificate in less than 2 months.

You have no idea....you are making assumptions that show only how ignorant you are. I started at UPS 5 years ago, right after I finished and graduated with an MBA. I earned what you call my "Teachers Certificate" when I graduated, this is not something I just did on the spur of the moment after quitting UPS, I already had it, and kept it up to date by teaching the Saturday Business classes at the local college. Next time you speak up and make assumptions about something....be sure you are right.....because no where did I ever say or even hint that I just earned my right to teach.....assumptions get you into trouble, and frankly they show ignorance...applause to you for showing yours.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by pissedoffmanager

You have no idea....you are making assumptions that show only how ignorant you are. I started at UPS 5 years ago, right after I finished and graduated with an MBA. I earned what you call my "Teachers Certificate" when I graduated, this is not something I just did on the spur of the moment after quitting UPS, I already had it, and kept it up to date by teaching the Saturday Business classes at the local college. Next time you speak up and make assumptions about something....be sure you are right.....because no where did I ever say or even hint that I just earned my right to teach.....assumptions get you into trouble, and frankly they show ignorance...applause to you for showing yours.

wow you got a nice 9 to 5 job teaching and a nice settlement and you're still PO'd. any chance we will see the video on U tube?

[pissedoffmanager]

Originally Posted by tieguy

wow you got a nice 9 to 5 job teaching and a nice settlement and you're still PO'd. any chance we will see the video on U tube?

I am not po'd at all at UPS...UPS did the right thing, and I even commend them for it. They owed me back pay, and wouldn't pay it until I filed a lawsuit, then they offered the settlement. I wanted nothing more than what was owed me, I cared about nothing else. As I said before UPS is a good company that was founded on great principles, and has some great people there, many of whom I am still friends with today. However, there is also somewhat of a dark side to the company that I experienced, and frankly that isn't right. No, I wouldn't go back to work for UPS as a manager, but yes I would as an hourly. As for your assumption that I am PO'd....yes I am at the fact that people on this board assume everything, and post their opinions based solely on those assumptions which are wrong most of the time. Tieguy, I hope everything is good up there in the northern part of the state if you are still there, last time I talked to you on the phone I think you were in the NJ or NY area, we were actually in a class together about 3 or 4 years ago.

[dillweed]

po'd manager - sorry you went through all this. Do be aware, however, that there is a dark side to most every organization. A-holes, liars and cheats exist everywhere; maybe even in the facility where you now teach.

I do agree that UPS can be a real hellhole and I've also seen management lie and pressure us unfairly to get their numbers.

Best of luck in your current position. Clear your mind of the bad experience and find peace within yourself.