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10-12-2008, 06:03 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 715
Rep Power: 1479 | Option 3 non union agreement Here we go in Central Florida again!
We did our option and vacation picks and this year tops them all.
If you picked option 3 for days off, there was a statement beside your signature that said that all days off must be approved by management IN ADVANCE.
How in the heck do you plan on being sick in advance? I scratched through that and wrote "not in contract" beside my name! |
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10-12-2008, 06:09 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 649
Rep Power: 1901 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Sign up for FMLA and use your Federal Rights and you cannot be denied.......Heck with the games... |
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10-13-2008, 03:31 AM
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#3 | | 555
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas, UPS Southern Conference
Posts: 4,593
Rep Power: 19897 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement You may have a fight on your hands, but more than likely you will win.
__________________ Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain! |
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10-13-2008, 04:15 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,095
Rep Power: 1368 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement What a bunch of MORONS running your center. And they wonder why things dont run smooth at thier center trying to put crap like that past you. |
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10-13-2008, 03:57 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 715
Rep Power: 1479 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Quote:
Originally Posted by speeddemon What a bunch of MORONS running your center. And they wonder why things dont run smooth at thier center trying to put crap like that past you. |
Speed,
My building has been this way for over 20 years and UPS cannot figure why we are one of the highest greivance filing buildings in the entire country! |
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10-13-2008, 04:59 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 158
Rep Power: 1105 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement We had that same thing on our sheet. Union B.A. said they are blowing smoke. Center mgrs can not add language to the contract. The added phrase means nothing. |
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10-13-2008, 07:02 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Down South!
Posts: 448
Rep Power: 4210 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement I'm glad to hear that this is bad language and not new language in the new contract.I noticed it also...My steward says it is a courtesy but not a requirement to arrange opt 3 days...I like his view.. |
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10-13-2008, 07:06 PM
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#8 | | Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,872
Rep Power: 20675 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement When I want a day off, I ask in advance.
When I need a day off, I call at least an hour before start time.
To me, that is why I chose opt 3.
__________________ Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong. |
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10-13-2008, 07:18 PM
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#9 | | aka Grandstug
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Closer to the Equator, than you!
Posts: 4,906
Rep Power: 8530 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Quote:
Originally Posted by satellitedriver When I want a day off, I ask in advance.
When I need a day off, I call at least an hour before start time.
To me, that is why I chose opt 3. | Ditto that, mister! |
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10-13-2008, 10:31 PM
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#10 | | Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 74
Rep Power: 0 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Management: Those who manage the business. Hourly: Those who work as directed, and are paid for obedience, not for thinking. Suck it up and follow the program of those who know.
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10-13-2008, 10:55 PM
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#11 | | I live dilbert
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 10,786
Rep Power: 27230 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Quote:
Originally Posted by paidslave Sign up for FMLA and use your Federal Rights and you cannot be denied.......Heck with the games... | Huh? Avoid one approval process by asking to be approved for another?
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10-13-2008, 11:00 PM
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#12 | | Shankman
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,700
Rep Power: 3814 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement It probalby would be hard to get approved for FMLA under these circumstances.
__________________ Find something you would do for free, Then find a way to get paid for it. |
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10-14-2008, 12:21 AM
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#13 | | Nightcrawler
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North East
Posts: 1,036
Rep Power: 2803 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSup Management: Those who manage the business. Hourly: Those who work as directed, and are paid for obedience, not for thinking. Suck it up and follow the program of those who know. | Yes, and we lowly hourlys have something for you to suck up.
We follow a contract. You should try reading that. Let us all know how you make out when you lose your job due to company cutbacks and have no bargaining unit to back your "out of work" ass up.
__________________ If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
Last edited by chev; 10-14-2008 at 12:37 AM.
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10-14-2008, 01:09 AM
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#14 | | 555
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas, UPS Southern Conference
Posts: 4,593
Rep Power: 19897 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement The FMLA is for medical purposes only. Although one might be able to fanagile a way around the proof of need, but that is dangerous grounds to be standing on. However once it is approved, it is approved. I think I would prefer to save the FMLA for what it is intended instead of just a way to get a day off every now and then.
__________________ Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain! |
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10-14-2008, 05:51 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 158
Rep Power: 1105 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement If you have FLMA (and I do) They can burn all your sick days and all but one week of vacation. |
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10-14-2008, 06:03 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 1021 | Re: Option 3 non union agreement Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSup Management: Those who manage the business. Hourly: Those who work as directed, and are paid for obedience, not for thinking. Suck it up and follow the program of those who know. | Not to think? Arrest me now, Thought Police.
*Edit*
If you don't get that, you need to read a book. |
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