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Old 10-12-2008, 06:03 PM   #1
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Default Option 3 non union agreement

Here we go in Central Florida again!

We did our option and vacation picks and this year tops them all.

If you picked option 3 for days off, there was a statement beside your signature that said that all days off must be approved by management IN ADVANCE.

How in the heck do you plan on being sick in advance? I scratched through that and wrote "not in contract" beside my name!
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:09 PM   #2
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Sign up for FMLA and use your Federal Rights and you cannot be denied.......Heck with the games...
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:31 AM   #3
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:15 AM   #4
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What a bunch of MORONS running your center. And they wonder why things dont run smooth at thier center trying to put crap like that past you.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:57 PM   #5
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What a bunch of MORONS running your center. And they wonder why things dont run smooth at thier center trying to put crap like that past you.

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Old 10-13-2008, 04:59 PM   #6
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We had that same thing on our sheet. Union B.A. said they are blowing smoke. Center mgrs can not add language to the contract. The added phrase means nothing.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:02 PM   #7
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I'm glad to hear that this is bad language and not new language in the new contract.I noticed it also...My steward says it is a courtesy but not a requirement to arrange opt 3 days...I like his view..
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When I want a day off, I ask in advance.
When I need a day off, I call at least an hour before start time.
To me, that is why I chose opt 3.
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When I want a day off, I ask in advance.
When I need a day off, I call at least an hour before start time.
To me, that is why I chose opt 3.
Ditto that, mister!
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Management: Those who manage the business. Hourly: Those who work as directed, and are paid for obedience, not for thinking. Suck it up and follow the program of those who know.
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Sign up for FMLA and use your Federal Rights and you cannot be denied.......Heck with the games...
Huh? Avoid one approval process by asking to be approved for another?
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:00 PM   #12
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It probalby would be hard to get approved for FMLA under these circumstances.
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Management: Those who manage the business. Hourly: Those who work as directed, and are paid for obedience, not for thinking. Suck it up and follow the program of those who know.
Yes, and we lowly hourlys have something for you to suck up.
We follow a contract. You should try reading that. Let us all know how you make out when you lose your job due to company cutbacks and have no bargaining unit to back your "out of work" ass up.
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:09 AM   #14
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The FMLA is for medical purposes only. Although one might be able to fanagile a way around the proof of need, but that is dangerous grounds to be standing on. However once it is approved, it is approved. I think I would prefer to save the FMLA for what it is intended instead of just a way to get a day off every now and then.
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If you have FLMA (and I do) They can burn all your sick days and all but one week of vacation.
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Management: Those who manage the business. Hourly: Those who work as directed, and are paid for obedience, not for thinking. Suck it up and follow the program of those who know.
Not to think? Arrest me now, Thought Police.

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