package driver 40 hr/wk? - Page 2 - Brown Cafe

killerzero259 · 08-06-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sortaisle

It depends on where you live. The average is anywhere from 9.5 to 12 hours a day. I would say get on as a Saturday Air driver and get your top scale there and then do utility driving. At least as a utility driver, you can turn down the extra work if you have some stuff to do that day.

what is a utility driving? i havent heard that before.

UpstateNYUPSer · 08-06-2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by killerzero259

what is a utility driving? i havent heard that before.

Cover or casual driver. PT or FT employee who does not have his/her own route. May also be bid cover.

Dustyroads · 08-06-2009, 12:01 PM

We have a few drivers I know who really hustle on the days they need to be at kids events and make almost all of them. A good friend of mine coaches his girls' softball team, and makes all of the practices. They all use their 8 hour requests for kids' events, skip their lunches to make a school play, sometimes they will ask a buddy to run a stop or two, but will always repay the favor.

It's not an easy task being a parent, nor is it easy being a UPS driver. However, there are thousands of em around the country that manage to do both well. It's not impossible.

killerzero259 · 08-06-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Cover or casual driver. PT or FT employee who does not have his/her own route. May also be bid cover.

thanks for the info UpstateNYUPSer. i applied to saturday air the week i turned 21 but my area isnt hiring which totally sucks for me. i wouldnt mind driving once a week nor would i mind covering other drivers. the extra cash would of been mad sweet to, considering how im a college student

Brown_Eyed_Girl · 08-06-2009, 01:25 PM

I cover for the nighttime drivers and think the money is decent. Adds an extra $100 per week when covering for vacations. One of the drivers is retiring in September and I'm crossing my fingers to get his route. Keep trying to get in Killer!

rocket man · 08-06-2009, 02:28 PM

ask someone at your hub. why would you have to ask on this.?

brownrodster · 08-06-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Cover or casual driver. PT or FT employee who does not have his/her own route. May also be bid cover.

We have "utility driver" defined in our supplement. It is a PT employee that can drive and deliver ground packages when there are no more FT employees available. They have their own wage for this job that is around 21$ an hour. It is a different wage than that of an air driver.

We do not have PT cover drivers in our area. We use unassigned FT drivers to cover routes. Our FT drivers don't work PT when they are laid off. They sit at home. So having a utility driver around every once in a while to drive a route is more fair to the employees than to train a new FT driver who will then sit at home on layoff after working for the needed week or two.

Kraetos · 08-06-2009, 08:02 PM

Or you can just never make a decision, and work on preload getting the weekly 20 and get another part time job and get another 20 = 40...low paycheck but time off? Need more money, extend second job to full-time...I do UPS in the mornings, and then do part-time at the post office. Good benefits, double coverage.

killerzero259 · 08-07-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brown_Eyed_Girl

I cover for the nighttime drivers and think the money is decent. Adds an extra $100 per week when covering for vacations. One of the drivers is retiring in September and I'm crossing my fingers to get his route. Keep trying to get in Killer!

yeah i've been buggin HR and the boss of the warehouse for a while but nothing. the boss of the warehouse (i dont know what else to call him) says businesses are not finding it worth it shipping mail overnight on fridays so for that reason the volume has been down. whatever but i just really want to start driving by next summer at least.

Just Lurking · 08-07-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SKAGITDRIVER

with this post now 10 months old I am curious Rott what did you choose? My advise quit now do not look back UPS does not care about you nor your family check out the divorce rate for both drivers and managers and you will not make weekday sporting events for your kid except on the rare occasion Good Luck

Being a single Dad - divorce may not be his biggest problem now.

Since all of Rott's four post were in this thread we will probably never know. Hopefully he moved on with his life.

cliffyhills · 09-26-2009, 03:33 AM

Im still working pt on the primary sort . signed every bid sheet that is posted. starting to think those bid sheets are put just to give upsers in the hub a sense of hope that they will be driving soon. (no i dont really think that) but i am almost 3 years in and I look forward to driving. I dont like the fact that when i was hired the HR told me that the aveage wait to get a driving position was 1 - 1/2 years. oh well i am being patiant.

IS 40 A LITTLE TO OLD TO START ON A PACKAG CAR? physically i feel fine , but reading this forum it sounds like guys are retireing with all sorts of pains.

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-26-2009, 04:02 AM

I was hired off the street when I was 28, am 48 now and feel like I am 58. My knees ache and find myself shaking my hands to try to get the feeling back in some of the fingers.

You are 40 with 3 years in. Unless your local is different from mine, you will need to work 27 more years to get a full pension, which means you will be 67 when you do retire. I cannot imagine doing this job when I am 67, let alone 89 (Marty).

An excellent way for you to get a feel for this job is to work as a Peak helper.

browniehound · 09-26-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fredly00

The only 40 hr week I got was my Vacation weeks...

Once in a while I would get a call in the morning
asking if I wanted the day off.. I'd say sure
a topped driver could live very comfy off a 3 day week at UPS..

Absolutely! I worked a 3-day 2 weeks ago and took home 670 bucks. I live a simple life and don't need a lot of money. At the same time, I will take the OT if its offered, such as delivering a misload to another town.

The sup. tells me to deliver it, I am going to deliver it. Today he told me to deliver a ML "on the way in". Well his "way in" was past a huge shopping mall and the main road to get to the interstate.

Needless to say i sat at 1 traffic light for 15 minutes. It took me 45 minutes to deliver this 1 ground package. My sup. knows the traffic situation in the area, so I can't understand why he would have me deliver this misload.

The profit from the package was probably less than $1, yet he paid me almost $44 to deliver it? Man, I'm happy I don't have this guy making MY business desicions. If he was, I would have fired him for this one on the spot!

My only rational guess now is his over-allowed numbers are better than his missed numbers. He's not a stupid guy, so I'm trying to understand his reasoning.

I understand we need to service our packages, but there is more to the equation. Since when do we through money out the window to service one package that nobody cares about?

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-26-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by browniehound

I understand we need to service our packages, but there is more to the equation. Since when do we through money out the window to service one package that nobody cares about?

You mean other than the consignee?

Bad Gas! · 09-26-2009, 05:19 AM

The other day in the Atlanta floods I had to go back on 25 stops after pickups....Usually no problem..but we had 20 inches of rain in some places, roads closed left and right and yes it was still storming and water still rising...Well, the 20 minutes back to my area took 1 hour and a half....and 15 of the stops were undeliverable because they were either flooded or trapped in a flood zone neighborhood...I made service on what I could...Another great decision by Brown mgt to send me back in that traffic though...I would rather run 20 stops an hour any day over sitting in a traffic jam.....UHHHHHHHHH

brownrodster · 09-26-2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by browniehound

Needless to say i sat at 1 traffic light for 15 minutes. It took me 45 minutes to deliver this 1 ground package. My sup. knows the traffic situation in the area, so I can't understand why he would have me deliver this misload.

My only rational guess now is his over-allowed numbers are better than his missed numbers. He's not a stupid guy, so I'm trying to understand his reasoning.
?

Exactly what I was going to say. That a missed package will probably reflect more poorly on him than you being more overallowed than usual. Missed will make him look bad. Overallowed will make you look bad. And all that matters at UPS is looking good on paper.

UpstateNYUPSer · 09-26-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad Gas!

The other day in the Atlanta floods I had to go back on 25 stops after pickups....Usually no problem..but we had 20 inches of rain in some places, roads closed left and right and yes it was still storming and water still rising...Well, the 20 minutes back to my area took 1 hour and a half....and 15 of the stops were undeliverable because they were either flooded or trapped in a flood zone neighborhood...I made service on what I could...Another great decision by Brown mgt to send me back in that traffic though...I would rather run 20 stops an hour any day over sitting in a traffic jam.....UHHHHHHHHH

I would think that in this instance Emergency Condition would apply.

scratch · 09-26-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

I would think that in this instance Emergency Condition would apply.

Last Tuesday when the flood waters rose, I heard our Atlanta Hub on the West side of town had drivers that didn't get back in until close to midnight. The highways were getting flooded out in the late morning that day. It took me about three hours to get home. There was only one bridge still open that evening for a lot of them to get back in.

Mike23 · 09-26-2009, 05:47 PM

I'm going to brag again so that you all hate me more

Most days I'm done around 1700...if it makes you feel better when the new building is up EVERYTHING will be FUBAR. My 110 max count stays at 110 but I'll end up with 130 stops with the three resie areas they're putting on...I don't think it'll fit on my truck though...I guess they told the truth though. No airmeets but I'll certainly get ground meets!

softshoe · 09-26-2009, 09:39 PM

[QUOTE=Mike23;607286 I don't think it'll fit on my truck though[/QUOTE]

UPS does have small trailers to hook up beind your pkg car.

bigrig · 09-27-2009, 10:09 AM

do combo job they only get straight 40 just what u need!!!

bigbrownhen · 09-27-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Gas!

The other day in the Atlanta floods I had to go back on 25 stops after pickups....Usually no problem..but we had 20 inches of rain in some places, roads closed left and right and yes it was still storming and water still rising...Well, the 20 minutes back to my area took 1 hour and a half....and 15 of the stops were undeliverable because they were either flooded or trapped in a flood zone neighborhood...I made service on what I could...Another great decision by Brown mgt to send me back in that traffic though...I would rather run 20 stops an hour any day over sitting in a traffic jam.....UHHHHHHHHH

I was wondering how you guys were doing down there with all that water. From what I understand Atlanta isn't prone to flooding, so it was a real mess. We have had a few storms with flooding, snow or tornados go through our area over the years, we have alot of EC's(emergency conditions) that do not get deilivered until it is clear on those days. Then the fun is trying to catch up on all the back log. Hope you all are making it through ok.

Dagoof · 09-27-2009, 09:59 PM

I have one of the earliest rts in our building I have to be back by 5 with all the air. Then I go do a UPS store p u so I am off by 6 almost every day. Its still about 9 and a half hours but I feel lucky to be off that early every day. One of the reasons I took this route.