package driver 40 hr/wk? - Brown Cafe

Rott · 10-15-2008, 08:45 PM

I have been working pt sort for 2 years. I'm just curious on the average weekly hours drivers put in? I am a single father and I am not sure driver would be the way to go..... on the oter hand I need money but I dont think working over 40 hrs. a wk will allow me any time to go to sons ball game, etc.... from what i see it looks like the drivers dont get in until after 7 pm almost every night. is that by choice or is the workload .

drewed · 10-15-2008, 08:51 PM

Youd miss the games Rott, most drivers do 50+ hours a week

rod · 10-15-2008, 09:06 PM

I could send you 30 years worth of pocket calendars that I used to keep track of my hours (yes I'm a packrat) and guarantee that you won't find any one week with just 40 hours. In fact I could count on one hand the number of days in 30 years that I ended up with just 8 hours or less. It's not the job to have if you are looking for a 40 hr week

Rott · 10-15-2008, 09:19 PM

What about pt drivers? or is there even such a thing as pt drivers?

I was thinking about applying for a supervisor position, but I have been told by many co workers that once your a sup you are stuck there. how true is that? I was also told that to even go driving from a sup pos. you have to have a college degree...... to be honest I've heard so much from different people I work with, I dont know what to do.... I cant even get a straight answer from HR

drewed · 10-15-2008, 09:22 PM

No pt drivers, you could do saturday driving. Pt suping you get between 13-20 an hour based on 27.5 hrs a week (theyre changing things after that so its up in the air) and pt sups can go driving as long as they fit in the 1:6 hire ration outside to inside (working for UPS) emplyoees

Baba gounj · 10-15-2008, 09:52 PM

Consider 9.5 hr days normal. ( with lunch )
Unless you take a combo job than 8 hrs is all that you'll get, along with a split pay rate.

Rott · 10-15-2008, 10:36 PM

what do you mean when you say "fit in the 1:6 hire ration outside to inside (working for UPS) emplyoees "? do you happen to know the ballpark figure annually for a sup?

Rott · 10-15-2008, 10:38 PM

i sent a message just now to the forum but I meant to address you....

thanx for the info

drewed · 10-15-2008, 10:47 PM

The contract states for every 6 driver positions hired one has to be an outside hire or a pt sup....

Umm id guess between 22 and 30k, theres a lot of variation in pay based on work local.

helenofcalifornia · 10-16-2008, 10:40 AM

Rott, look for another job. 40 hours a week is a dream for most drivers. It's good you are asking these questions before you get in too deep. Tough life being a single parent unless you have an extended family you can fall back on. Still won't get you home early. Good luck!

sortaisle · 10-17-2008, 01:37 PM

It depends on where you live. The average is anywhere from 9.5 to 12 hours a day. I would say get on as a Saturday Air driver and get your top scale there and then do utility driving. At least as a utility driver, you can turn down the extra work if you have some stuff to do that day.

softshoe · 10-17-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rott

I have been working pt sort for 2 years. I'm just curious on the average weekly hours drivers put in? I am a single father and I am not sure driver would be the way to go..... on the oter hand I need money but I dont think working over 40 hrs. a wk will allow me any time to go to sons ball game, etc.... from what i see it looks like the drivers dont get in until after 7 pm almost every night. is that by choice or is the workload .

If you become a driver you won't be attending many of your childrens activities.

Bad Gas! · 10-17-2008, 05:42 PM

I know drivers that coach and make most games.But they skip lunch everyday.Yhat would get old and would cost you alot of hard earned jack.......Usually low senior drivers don't get choice routes.You get bad vehicles and the sups expect you to pay your dues and help other drivers if you finish early...Good money for a single dad..bad hours!

PorkChop Express · 10-17-2008, 05:48 PM

I am pushing 11hrs/5 days a week

Hoaxster · 10-17-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rott

...from what i see it looks like the drivers dont get in until after 7 pm almost every night. is that by choice or is the workload .

Maybe not relevant to today but it will give you evidence that 50+ hours a week is not just a recent trend. The last year I drove back in 1978, I averaged 54.5 hours / week for the last year I drove.
Remember that because I had to take a cut in pay to go into management!

CRASH501 · 10-17-2008, 06:09 PM

I sooooooooooooo disagree a 40 hour week as a fulltime deiver is absolutely within reach.....
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fredly00 · 10-17-2008, 06:52 PM

The only 40 hr week I got was my Vacation weeks...

Once in a while I would get a call in the morning
asking if I wanted the day off.. I'd say sure
a topped driver could live very comfy off a 3 day week at UPS..

drewed · 10-17-2008, 07:00 PM

3/14s? you should fight for that in the next contract have like 30percent due mon-weds and have everyone else do 5 day weeks

cachsux · 10-17-2008, 07:33 PM

In the grand scheme of things making every sports game or school event is not as important as the fact you`ll be able to put a roof over your head and pay for his college education. When my daughter was born she was asleep when I left and asleep when I got home. I went to feeder when she was one and took late night/early morning bids so that I would be home as much as possible when things were going on. I still don`t make it to everything even now with three kids but I take pride in how well rounded and kind kids they are. Don`t place too much value on the sports,the quality time that a stable job can provide is more important. Teach your boy to be a good man and he`ll go farther than he could just throwing a ball.

BrownMex4ever · 10-17-2008, 10:47 PM

ROT, I admire you for taking care of your son, and understand the importance of spending as much time with him, but you should really consider taking the driving job versus part time sup. the guys are right, your days will be long, but financially you will provide for your son and his future, talk to your relatives for help.

UpstateNYUPSer · 10-18-2008, 05:30 AM

I have 2 kids and they both were very active in sports and other activities while in school. They both realized that neither myself or their mother (RN) would be able to get to every one of their games so they were very appreciative when they looked in to the bleachers and saw either one or both of us. I was able to watch more of my son's baseball games because he played his games on a field which was on my delivery route so I would simply take my lunch during his games. I watched one of my daughter's away games because she was playing at a school that was on the way back to the center so again I just took my lunch then. This was all pre-PAS and pre-GPS.

I also commend you for your role as a single father. It is vital that you have a strong support network in place before you become a driver. A 40 hour work week, while possible, is highly unlikely and you would lose a ton of money. My last paycheck had zero overtime and I was down at least $150-200 from my usual take home so taken over a year that is almost $10K.

You have to decide what is important to you and will soon realize that you can combine both elements, just not to the degree that you may like. Good luck.

SKAGITDRIVER · 08-05-2009, 08:37 PM

with this post now 10 months old I am curious Rott what did you choose? My advise quit now do not look back UPS does not care about you nor your family check out the divorce rate for both drivers and managers and you will not make weekday sporting events for your kid except on the rare occasion Good Luck

City Driver · 08-05-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rod

I could send you 30 years worth of pocket calendars that I used to keep track of my hours (yes I'm a packrat) and guarantee that you won't find any one week with just 40 hours. In fact I could count on one hand the number of days in 30 years that I ended up with just 8 hours or less. It's not the job to have if you are looking for a 40 hr week

thats the magic number

hopefully ill be able to retire the day i hit 30 years......still got a looooong way to go

brownrodster · 08-05-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rott

I have been working pt sort for 2 years. I'm just curious on the average weekly hours drivers put in? I am a single father and I am not sure driver would be the way to go..... on the oter hand I need money but I dont think working over 40 hrs. a wk will allow me any time to go to sons ball game, etc.... from what i see it looks like the drivers dont get in until after 7 pm almost every night. is that by choice or is the workload .

I can count weeks in which I worked under 45 hours on one hand. Normally a workweek for me is 47-52 hours.

The only days I work 8 or under is when I am mistakenly underdispatched and I sneak out before they can give me more work.

brownrodster · 08-05-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rott

What about pt drivers? or is there even such a thing as pt drivers?

I was thinking about applying for a supervisor position, but I have been told by many co workers that once your a sup you are stuck there. how true is that? I was also told that to even go driving from a sup pos. you have to have a college degree...... to be honest I've heard so much from different people I work with, I dont know what to do.... I cant even get a straight answer from HR

We have part time saturday drivers. They usually work for 4-5 hours on saturday morning.

There are combo drivers who work 40 hours per week doing 4 hours in the hub pretending to work and 4 hours driving around doing nothing. Those jobs take mega seniority to score around here. I dream of having that job over being a full time package car driver.