Anyone here anything about layoffs??

[LI804]

Im here on Long Island and the word is, come the 1st of the new year they are going to start laying off. starting with PTers. I heard it could be up to 5 years of sensiorty or lower. work has been slow but i didnt think that slow. right now they are starting to get us inside full time guys off the clock exactly at 8 hour, no more OT. Is this happening anywhere else? any of the rumors heard anywhere else?

If this has been mentioned sorry for the double post

[BLACKBOX]

Originally Posted by LI804

Im here on Long Island and the word is, come the 1st of the new year they are going to start laying off. starting with PTers. I heard it could be up to 5 years of sensiorty or lower. work has been slow but i didnt think that slow. right now they are starting to get us inside full time guys off the clock exactly at 8 hour, no more OT. Is this happening anywhere else? any of the rumors heard anywhere else?

If this has been mentioned sorry for the double post

You have to expect layoffs after peak. This is a tradition of UPS to adjust to decreasing volumes. I have heard too about people with less than 5 years senority to expect a cut in the hours they work or being laid off until volume returns.

[HEFFERNAN]

I don't know if I'm out of line, but laying off part-time workers is easier to swallow than laying off full-time drivers. Sending a driver back into preload would be smarter than giving him a pink slip.
Whoever gets layed off anyways is entitled to come back as long as you made seniority

[dilligaf]

Heff, it's the same difference isn't it? FT gets laid off and bumps a PT time out of their position on preload or nite sort or both. We are still guaranteed 8 hrs.

[Baba gounj]

Had a 4 year driver ask me yesterday about this very question. I replied that within our local there are several buildings with a lot of p/t's that could be bumped. That made him quite happy.
The only down side could be to get 8 hours one might have to split shift in different buildings.

[PAUPSER]

I’m here in PA and are cm already informed us that their will be a lot of layoffs in January, which layoffs happen ever time after peak but he said this next year will be a lot worse then previous years. I was also told to expect anyone with less then 5 years seniority to be laid off, starting with the part-timers obviously. We have been so slow that they haven’t started any driver helpers and or seasonal workers inside which hasn’t happen in the fours that I have been here until now.

[The Brown Santa]

Hell, I've been laid off for 5 weeks now.... Rumor is another 50 drivers in my hub on 1-1-09. Some feeders guys have been back inside for 7 months already.

[kickbacksocal]

It's coming, we have full time drivers being used at runners just to get there 8 in, we also have 4 drivers with 20yrs plus with the company that transfered into our building and are at the bottom, they will bump part-timers next yr. Have any see mechanic's get laid off? They are not replacing the ones who get fired or quit, and 8 hours only since April.

[some1else]

how long do your benefits last once you are laid off?

[over9five]

I heard 10 years and less.

[But Benefits Are Great!]

Originally Posted by some1else

how long do your benefits last once you are laid off?

I wanted to ask the same thing - Anyone know?

[705red]

If you get laid off bump into ptime to retain your benefits, you go on lay off and they should be done within 30 days or end of the month.

[But Benefits Are Great!]

Originally Posted by 705red

If you get laid off bump into ptime to retain your benefits, you go on lay off and they should be done within 30 days or end of the month.

Ahhh....then my New Year's Resolution with be to not jump off a tall building when I go back to unloading?

Thank you for the answer.

[coldworld]

ups has no idea what kind of spikes that the dhl volume is going to give ups. The number of 4 billion dollars of dhl volume out there, much of that coming to ups. Ups has no idea, but theres talk of layoffs....typical, make huge changes before you even know whats going to happen.Its good business sense to be concerned, but why say this or that before you know anything?

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by Baba gounj

Had a 4 year driver ask me yesterday about this very question. I replied that within our local there are several buildings with a lot of p/t's that could be bumped. That made him quite happy.
The only down side could be to get 8 hours one might have to split shift in different buildings.

Talking about laying off hundreds of people up this way in the big leagues.

[JDMC1212]

i havent heard of any layoffs here in ontario california. just today ive been hearing about how its going to pick up because of the two huge accounts we are trying to pick up from dhl. crossing fingers....

[stringerman85]

Originally Posted by coldworld

ups has no idea what kind of spikes that the dhl volume is going to give ups. The number of 4 billion dollars of dhl volume out there, much of that coming to ups. Ups has no idea, but theres talk of layoffs....typical, make huge changes before you even know whats going to happen.Its good business sense to be concerned, but why say this or that before you know anything?

I agree, And who is actually saying all this crap that everyone hears? Just people talking rumors is all it is...Our volume always decreases in January, With DHL gone, It won't be as bad as originally expected, There will be probably be a few layoffs but to say 5 years or less seniority is just a silly rumor thrown out there, nobody knows yet..

[New Englander]

Especially since five years doesn't mean a damn thing. 5 years of seniority here could be completely different in terms of drivers some where else.

[brownmonster]

We lost 6 drivers since March. All 20 year plus. One quit, one went into feeders, 4 retired. No driver layoff issue here, thank goodness.

[finaddict]

Here's some feeder news. 4-10hr days! SWEEEEEETTTTT!!! I don't need, want or care to think about a 60hr week. Gimmee 4/10's. But there are some 8 and the gate 5 days too. We're going to have some serious labor issues on subcontracting this "peak".

[outamyway]

Originally Posted by BLACKBOX

You have to expect layoffs after peak. This is a tradition of UPS to adjust to decreasing volumes. I have heard too about people with less than 5 years senority to expect a cut in the hours they work or being laid off until volume returns.

This is supposed to way worse that your average Christmas hires(there haven't been any in our building)being let go.

They have already dropped quite a few drivers down to preload. Some of those laid off drivers are being used as helpers.

We are expected to layoff a lot of drivers, starting with dropping feeder to package and then package to preload/local sort. Bump, bump, bump.

I still am not sure how this effects air drivers.

[outamyway]

Originally Posted by coldworld

ups has no idea what kind of spikes that the dhl volume is going to give ups. The number of 4 billion dollars of dhl volume out there, much of that coming to ups. Ups has no idea, but theres talk of layoffs....typical, make huge changes before you even know whats going to happen.Its good business sense to be concerned, but why say this or that before you know anything?

Wait, logic, planning ahead, being prepared, not over reacting? You do know what company you work for right?

[outamyway]

Originally Posted by HEFFERNAN

I don't know if I'm out of line, but laying off part-time workers is easier to swallow than laying off full-time drivers. Sending a driver back into preload would be smarter than giving him a pink slip.
Whoever gets laid off anyways is entitled to come back as long as you made seniority

That's what everyone means by laid-off. Full time drivers don't get the can, lowest seniority partimers do.

[Porkman]

Over 200 feeder qualified drivers in pkg rt now! In local 396 How bout it

[cachsux]

Our projected peak volume at the Cach is expected to be down 6-15%,managers words.