Driving Me Nuts

[trplnkl]

Come on Chev, don't hold back....tell us how you rally feel.

[chev]

Originally Posted by trplnkl

Come on Chev, don't hold back....tell us how you rally feel.

Guess I did get a little nuts on that one.
I just get sick of the Feeder driver bashing from people who think they know the job. Not all feeder drivers are pre-Madonnas. We are hard working guys and gals that for one reason or another decided they had enough of driving package. Btw....I respect package drivers because I KNOW the job and have done it. It's not an easy life either.
Aww hell. I'm going to bed. Should have been in 2 hours ago. Gotta work tonight.

[pickup]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

LOL at the feeder guys.

God forbid your heart rate is increased prior to you go out on the road.

Have you ever heard that exercise increases alertness and overall health? Maybe that general health principle doesn't apply to anyone in UPS feeders.

okay, lets take my day yesterday as a feeder driver, punched in , grabbed tractor and trailer, emptied out twenty pallets (left over) and garbage with a sense of urgency, drove to my first pickup and at second pickup broke down 4 pallets of approximately 200 pieces so everything can fit, came back , dropped trailer, picked up another trailer for a pickup ( got 20 empty pallets off again ) Drove down to pickup and swapped trailers which meant unhooking, hooking, unhooking,hooking, unhooking, and hooking. Came back, unhooked. Took lunch, , did a couple of trailer moves with tractor (not shifter), got assigned a 2 hour run with a set of doubles, that i had to assemble. 2 hours to get there , 2 hours to get back with another set of doubles that I had to assemble. The point I am trying to make is we don't sit on our asses all day as feeder drivers. The problem in this case is that feeder's dispatchers try to use him to enforce the pull time and creates friction with the loaders. they want him to be the bad guy. Plenty of times i have relayed info to my dispatch about a trailer being held up at door and they say they will send one of our supervisors over. The first time they sent someone over, I thought " great ! I am going to get going." Supe shows up and just observes, says nothing. He doesn't want friction . He justs hopes his presence is enough to speed things up. They know they are powerless, yet they expect me on my own to do (get trailer off door) what they can't or are unwilling to do.

[oakcreekteamie]

Originally Posted by dannyboy

boys boys boys, lets focus on what was posted by the original poster, as he does have an issue.



1 the driver is not being told to load
2 the driver is leaving before his pull time
3 the sort is usually down on time for him to leave on time
4 but he is jumping the gun, several times leaving packages at the dock.

so this really has nothing to do with a driver trying to make service at his regularly scheduled pull time. for what ever reason, he feels like he needs to leave early every day. and be loading boxes before his pull time.

it sounds to me like an issue that needs to be looked at a bit more.

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And that's exactly what I wanted to bring to the table. not the fact that he was loading packages. If i could have it my way I would't want him to touch a package and for our belt he doesnt have to! We are ON TIME and the only thing that is warranting him to do this is that he wants to leave ASAP but when : A) you are on time and no need to help out the loader with his job please dont. B) he closes down the door when we have hots to be put inside the trailer and not to mention bulk, it begins to become an issue not of time but of respect.

I just wanted to know (looking past the fact that he is late, which again, he is never going to leave after the pull times set for him) why he must close down doors and leave when he in fact does know that there are still flow and items to be put inside the trailer.

The interesting part is that he CAN do it because any overflow gets carted to another belt where an existing trailer can accept the hots and make destination in time.

I, for one, respect his job and have enough sense to know people have to be places and make times. And when, and if, I running behind on my trialer and he helps me out I will be greatful; it isnt his job, but mine. I just would like the respect to do my job completley. Wouldnt you agree?

[cachsux]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

LOL at the feeder guys.

God forbid your heart rate is increased prior to you go out on the road.

Have you ever heard that exercise increases alertness and overall health? Maybe that general health principle doesn't apply to anyone in UPS feeders.

It does apply. Thats how we are able to keep from running you over on your way home from work. Of course in your case we are willing to make an exception.

[705red]

Originally Posted by chev

Guess I did get a little nuts on that one.
I just get sick of the Feeder driver bashing from people who think they know the job. Not all feeder drivers are pre-Madonnas. We are hard working guys and gals that for one reason or another decided they had enough of driving package. Btw....I respect package drivers because I KNOW the job and have done it. It's not an easy life either.
Aww hell. I'm going to bed. Should have been in 2 hours ago. Gotta work tonight.

One question mr. know it all! Do you get your wall street journal home delivered or do you pick it up on the way to work?

[chev]

Originally Posted by 705red

One question mr. know it all! Do you get your wall street journal home delivered or do you pick it up on the way to work?

Eh?
Whatchu talkin bout Willis?

Whatchu talkin bout Willis"

Whatchu talkin bout Willis"

[Hoaxster]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoaxster
Question:
What was the reason the pirate gave for having a steering wheel attached to the front of his pants?
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Originally Posted by Dizzee

Arghh... It's fer drivin' me nutts!!

~sigh~ I can't believe I've sunk to Hoaxsters' level...

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Hey...that intellectual high-brow humor ain't all it's made out to be!

[705red]

Chev at least in these parts of the woods, when package drivers go feeder they all of a sudden become contract experts! Even though most have them have never even read the contract while in package. So now when are guys go we give them a copy of the wall street journal at the same time we give them their pillow.

[Slack Adjuster]

Folks, i'm pretty new to the BC forum, although i've observed for a while. Let me throw out something in this discussion; At a major hub, while feeder drivers are waiting for the last of the "hots", or the last irreg train to run, is it right for the hub to send the majority of the $8.50 per hr. help home to make their "numbers", while drivers are waiting with 2 95% hot loads in the door for up to an hour or more? I fail to see the logic for making two entire loads late for the sake of a few tailpipes and five gallon buckets. Thanks, I welcome the discussion.

[cachsux]

Originally Posted by Slack Adjuster

Folks, i'm pretty new to the BC forum, although i've observed for a while. Let me throw out something in this discussion; At a major hub, while feeder drivers are waiting for the last of the "hots", or the last irreg train to run, is it right for the hub to send the majority of the $8.50 per hr. help home to make their "numbers", while drivers are waiting with 2 95% hot loads in the door for up to an hour or more? I fail to see the logic for making two entire loads late for the sake of a few tailpipes and five gallon buckets. Thanks, I welcome the discussion.

They can do it if they want but be sure you let your mgmt team know so when you don`t pull on time the crap can roll down the right hill. If they`re sending them home and having you finish the loads then you need to make yourself scarce before they think of putting you to work.

Love the avatar....uhhmmm

[cachsux]

Originally Posted by 705red

Chev at least in these parts of the woods, when package drivers go feeder they all of a sudden become contract experts! Even though most have them have never even read the contract while in package. So now when are guys go we give them a copy of the wall street journal at the same time we give them their pillow.

I don`t know about being contract experts but I do know as I`ve gone up the ladder I`ve gained experience and knowledge but also see more of a union presence. Part time-"we`re in a union?",Package-"we have a union if they try and fire us but on the day to day stuff we`re f-d",Feeder- " we have finally learned from being f-d and no know it when we see it"

P.s. Where`s my pillow? I never got one. Do I need to file a grievance?

[Mike Hawk]

Originally Posted by cachsux

I don`t know about being contract experts but I do know as I`ve gone up the ladder I`ve gained experience and knowledge but also see more of a union presence. Part time-"we`re in a union?",Package-"we have a union if they try and fire us but on the day to day stuff we`re f-d",Feeder- " we have finally learned from being f-d and no know it when we see it"

P.s. Where`s my pillow? I never got one. Do I need to file a grievance?

They are in the new vending machines, if you union troublemakers stopped boycotting them you would know this.

[cachsux]

Originally Posted by Mike Hawk

They are in the new vending machines, if you union troublemakers stopped boycotting them you would know this.

But the price is too high.

[over9five]

MY contract reads, "Pillows to be provided to incoming Feeder drivers at no charge".

Time to file a grievance!

[chev]

Originally Posted by 705red

Chev at least in these parts of the woods, when package drivers go feeder they all of a sudden become contract experts! Even though most have them have never even read the contract while in package. So now when are guys go we give them a copy of the wall street journal at the same time we give them their pillow.

BTW.....I'm one of those guys that actually do read the contract, but I'll take that pillow.

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Originally Posted by over9five

MY contract reads, "Pillows to be provided to incoming Feeder drivers at no charge".

Time to file a grievance!

I think some of our newer feeder drivers misinterpreted this and put them under their shirts--or perhaps they put on a few pounds...?

[cachsux]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

I think some of our newer feeder drivers misinterpreted this and put them under their shirts--or perhaps they put on a few pounds...?

Ohhh Hahahaaa. Gosh it`s humor like that that will carry me through the peak season as I sit in my toasty tractor waiting on my trailer and test driving my new pillow. Hopefully you guys can find a way to stay warm in package.

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

I think some of our newer feeder drivers misinterpreted this and put them under their shirts--or perhaps they put on a few pounds...?

That's good!
I resemble that remark and I'm not even in feeder.

[satellitedriver]

Originally Posted by cachsux

Ohhh Hahahaaa. Gosh it`s humor like that that will carry me through the peak season as I sit in my toasty tractor waiting on my trailer and test driving my new pillow. Hopefully you guys can find a way to stay warm in package.

No problem in keeping warm in package.
Only two things work in a pkg car, the heater and the driver.
Plus, the added heat you get from the Sup's.

[Big Babooba]

Originally Posted by satellitedriver

No problem in keeping warm in package.
Only two things work in a pkg car, the heater and the driver.
Plus, the added heat you get from the Sup's.

I drove the "Package Car from Hell" last Thursday. The only thing tat worked in it was me - NO HEAT!!! Luckily I was able to go to Cumbys and get something to remedy my situation. I had plenty of heat afterward.

[outta hours]

Originally Posted by cachsux

Here is how I handle this situation. I`ll do everything in my part of the job to be ready,pretrip,hookup,etc. I`ll go in and see whats up and let the sup know what the gate time is if needed. If your still loading these hots and appear your not going to be done in time I`ll call the building dispatch and let them know as well as my dispatch at my barn to also let them know. Once all the appropriate people know what time I`m supposed to leave and that I might not I`ll stand around until the cows come home as I have now covered my ass. If it don`t make the gate,oh well.

That's what I do also. I do the same thing if i have a BOP. Let the sups duke it out and blame each other when I'm late at the gate. Often times the p/t sup. knows the pull time but tries to act like he does not, to buy some extra time. That's why I call my dispatch and let them call down and turn up the heat. Not my problem after that.

[Sleeve_meet_Heart]

Originally Posted by chev

Uhhh whatever.
I love the stereotypical BS you guys apply to feeder drivers. You think that because we drive a Tractor, we are lazy. Maybe our general health principal is none of your frickin business. We work crazy hours and juggle crazy schedules.
Thats what the gym is for. Lets see how alert you are after sweating your gonads off loading a trailer and then running down the road at 3am. Please give me a break. I've done my time in the trailers. I've done just about every job in the building. It's time to let the young bucks do what they were hired for. LOAD TRAILERS. I don't see anyone jumping to drive my tractor at un-Godly hours of the night. Getting done at 6am on a Saturday and dealing with being out of sync with ever one else. This is a simple case of jealousy because you can't stand to see a driver watch you load while he waits for you to finish.
Boo hooo. "I'm doing more work than him".
Reminds me of my kids.

Stop trying to apply your opinion to a situation you know nothing about. When you learn to drive a feeder and actually experience the job, then maybe it will be relevant. Until then sit down and zip it.


Oh and BTW.....welcome to BC......

I've been here alot longer than you Little do you know..

I am only giving you facts there. If you exercise, you will be more alert and active. That is clad, pure science. Only an undereducated grunt would think otherwise, so there it is, the truth! AlsoThe contract here says "all feeder drivers will load and unload as directed"....that is not very difficult to understand either...

My opinion: Do I recommend a feeder driver sweat it out for 3 hours loading in 100 degree heat? Heck no.

My opnion :being hesitatnt to move a few pieces into their load if it's late or there's hangups because they are "too good to do part-time work" is not only lazy it's disrespectful to the people regularly moving the work.

And lastly, if I'm ever loading a feeder, it's after 8 hours when everythings down and I'm making more than a feeder driver sitting around with his hands in his pockets. (34.68/hr) So take that however you want!

[cachsux]

Originally Posted by Sleeve_meet_Heart

I've been here alot longer than you Little do you know..

I am only giving you facts there. If you exercise, you will be more alert and active. That is clad, pure science. Only an undereducated grunt would think otherwise, so there it is, the truth! AlsoThe contract here says "all feeder drivers will load and unload as directed"....that is not very difficult to understand either...

My opinion: Do I recommend a feeder driver sweat it out for 3 hours loading in 100 degree heat? Heck no.

My opnion :being hesitatnt to move a few pieces into their load if it's late or there's hangups because they are "too good to do part-time work" is not only lazy it's disrespectful to the people regularly moving the work.

And lastly, if I'm ever loading a feeder, it's after 8 hours when everythings down and I'm making more than a feeder driver sitting around with his hands in his pockets. (34.68/hr) So take that however you want!

Giving a ptimer a hand and showing them respect is one thing. Loading trailers while a sup sends his people home are another. As far as my heart rate I`ll save it for dodging idiots on the road. With 19 years without loading a trailer to stay alert yet still having a safe driving record I must be doing something right. But thanks for caring.

Chev,like I said before don`t stand around if you don`t want to volunteer. Find something out of sight to do.

[Slack Adjuster]

I guess, to me, the main thing is - is this an every day occurence? I dont want to sit in the door on Fri. from 345 to 500 am, or any other day, and then do a 545 mi. turn. Also, I consider my meet man(or woman);how this affects them, also. The bottom line is,each faction of the business wants what they want. The hub wants people off the clock ASAP;feeder wants to adhere to pull times. Occasionally waiting is one thing;daily delays suggest an internal communications problem.Short answer-pick up the phone-CYA.Just an opinion,thanks.